73. Beyond Color: Understanding Your Core Motivations with Kathy "Kat" Larson Executive from "The Hartman Color Code"

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Trisha Jamison has been counting down the days to share this episode with you! She’s been using the Color Code for nearly two decades—in her marriage, with her family, and with clients—and now you get to see why she loves it so much. Get ready… this one’s a treat!

You know that moment when everything in you wants to snap, but something inside says, “Pause”? We’ve all been there. And in this eye-opening conversation with the incredible Kathy Larson—Managing Partner of Hartman Color Code—we learn how knowing your core motive can completely shift how you relate, lead, and love.

Kathy breaks down the four core colors that drive us:

❤️ Red – Power

💙 Blue – Intimacy

🤍 White – Peace

💛 Yellow – Fun

Unlike other personality tools that tell you what you do, the Color Code goes deeper—it tells you why. And that changes everything.

From a very relatable parenting story involving a drill left in the rain (oops!) to what happens when a 6’10” Blue husband tries to act like a Red, you’ll laugh, relate, and probably recognize yourself or someone you love.

Kathy also gets personal, sharing what it was like to grow up as a 92% Yellow who struggled with commitment—and how facing those challenges helped her step into leadership and become the steward of this life-changing system.

And yes… Jeff takes the test too—and the results spark some surprises and deep insight about exhaustion, identity, and living out of alignment with who we truly are.

We even dive into Kathy’s work with elite athletes and how understanding core motives helps them thrive—not just in competition, but in life.

Whether you’re navigating a tough relationship, managing a team, or just trying to figure yourself out, this episode will leave you feeling empowered, inspired, and more equipped to connect—with yourself and others.

Don’t miss Part Two next week—and be sure to take the Color Code assessment using our special listener discount!

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1. Power Drill Parenting Moment (00:00:00)

2. Introduction to Kathy Larson (00:08:50)

3. The Power of Color Code Simplicity (00:12:10)

4. Understanding the Four Colors (00:17:42)

5. Heart Behind the Work (00:22:27)

6. Athletes and Identity Beyond Sports (00:29:40)

7. Core Motive vs. Personality (00:32:30)