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Talking about money is hard. All over the world, people are taught never to talk about money, politics, sex or religion in polite company. On 50 Fires: A Podcast About Money and Meaning from Executive Producers Chip and Joanna Gaines, host and financial conversationalist Carl Richards will remove money from that list by having frank, funny, and often difficult conversations about money - the kind we were all told not to have! - with guests from all walks of life. In each episode, Carl will i ...
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This Morning Walk

Alex Elle + Libby DeLana

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This Morning Walk podcast invites you to experience the transformative power of a simple walk, now part of Blind Nil Audio from Executive Producers Chip and Joanna Gaines. Join hosts Alex Elle and Libby DeLana as they share the lessons they’ve learned on their walking paths, both individually and together. Alex - A New York Times BestSelling Author and writing coach living in DC with her husband and daughters - and Libby - a Creative Director based on both coasts with grown children - starte ...
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The Stories We Tell with Joanna Gaines

Blind Nil Audio and Pod People

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New York Times Bestselling author Joanna Gaines invites guests - including podcast-reluctant Chip Gaines - to discuss her new book, The Stories We Tell. Filled with the same wit and hard-won wisdom you expect from the stars of Fixer Upper and Magnolia founders, this four-episode series shines a light on the vulnerable side of Jo as she speaks candidly about doubt and belief, shame and acceptance, and finding strength in self-discovery. Jo writes, “Earlier this year, I wrote down my story—all ...
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Teenage investor Chris Truong joins Carl to discuss why investing your money should be boring. At just 16 years old, Chris started a long-term diversified investing club at his high school - a club for ‘boring investment’, as he puts it - and it has grown from a club of 2 people - just him and his teacher - to over 40 of his peers. Chris emphasizes…
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Description Libby walks (and talks!) with good friend and actress Ellen Wong. Libby is walking in Massachusetts while Ellen connected with her in Los Angeles. Keep in touch: https://www.thismorningwalk.com/ Instagram: @thismorningwalk Alex Instagram: @alex_elle Libby Instagram: @parkhere Blind Nil Instagram: @blindnilaudio Please direct business in…
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A new series of Walk & Talks starts next week on This Morning Walk Podcast! Libby also reflects on walking in the wilderness of Alaska and reads an entry from the This Morning Walk Substack called Walk In The Woods. https://www.thismorningwalk.com/blog/walk-in-the-woods Keep in touch: https://www.thismorningwalk.com/ Instagram: @thismorningwalk Ale…
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The world is a better place when we are all trying to do the thing that lights us up. Ben Katt shares his experience of following his intuition and making a job change to focus on writing a book and rebooting his meditation teaching practice while in his 40s. Ben recently authored a book called “The Way Home: Discovering the Hero’s Journey to Whole…
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Keep in touch: https://www.thismorningwalk.com/ Instagram: @thismorningwalk Alex Instagram: @alex_elle Libby Instagram: @parkhere Blind Nil Instagram: @blindnilaudio Please direct business inquiries to: blindnilaudio@magnolia.com Music Credits: Valante / Ramo / courtesy of www.epidemicsound.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/a…
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Jodi Kantor and Ron Lieber are both distinguished journalists at The New York Times, and today they join Carl to discuss the importance of financial stability for their family while pursuing work that is meaningful, both as individuals, and as a couple. Ron has been the “Your Money” columnist for The New York Times since 2008, and worked as the edi…
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Keep in touch: https://www.thismorningwalk.com/ Instagram: @thismorningwalk Alex Instagram: @alex_elle Libby Instagram: @parkhere Blind Nil Instagram: @blindnilaudio Please direct business inquiries to: blindnilaudio@magnolia.com Music Credits: Valante / Ramo / courtesy of www.epidemicsound.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/a…
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What does it truly mean to balance success with artistic integrity? Brendan Leonard, an artist and creative known for his humorous and thoughtful writing at Semi-Rad.com, shares his journey through the delicate balance of staying true to his creative vision and the pressures of mass appeal. This episode explores a familiar theme on 50 Fires: Why do…
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Stephanie Kelton is an American Economist, Academic, and a leading proponent of Modern Monetary Theory. She served as chief economist on the U.S. Senate Budget Committee in 2015, and POLITICO called her one of the 50 Most Influential Thinkers the year after. On this episode of 50 Fires, she joins Carl to share her own personal stories about money a…
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As summer turns into fall, Libby reflects on the changing season by listening to what her body is telling her on a recent morning walk. Keep in touch: https://www.thismorningwalk.com/ Instagram: @thismorningwalk Alex Instagram: @alex_elle Libby Instagram: @parkhere Blind Nil Instagram: @blindnilaudio Please direct business inquiries to: blindnilaud…
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Peter Rollins is an Irish philosopher, author, storyteller, producer and public speaker who has gained an international reputation for overturning traditional notions of religion and being in the world. Peter joins Carl to reflect on how we can align our lives more closely with our values, using money to enable that alignment. This wide ranging con…
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Comedian King Hassan has lived many lives - he’s a former police officer who somehow became a stand up comic and writer, now living in Los Angeles with his wife and three kids. He was born in Alabama to an American mother and Nigerian father, which led to often confusing and conflicting approaches to money, wealth, and identity. He and Carl discuss…
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Libby answers a frequently asked listener question - how did you get started with your walking journey? Keep in touch: https://www.thismorningwalk.com/ Instagram: @thismorningwalk Libby Instagram: @parkhere Please direct business inquiries to: blindnilaudio@magnolia.com Music Credits: Valante / Ramo / courtesy of www.epidemicsound.com Learn more ab…
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Carl welcomes Greg McKeown, the author of two New York Times bestsellers “Effortless: Make It Easier to Do What Matters Most”, and “Essentialism: The Disciplined Pursuit of Less,” one of Carl’s favorite books. In this episode of 50 Fires, Greg and Carl discuss the concept of creating possibilities beyond money and why lack of capital should never b…
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Libby reflects on the combination of optimism, enthusiasm, and the support of friends while on today's morning walk. Keep in touch! https://www.thismorningwalk.com/ Instagram: @thismorningwalk Libby Instagram: @parkhere Blind Nil Instagram: @blindnilaudio Please direct business inquiries to: blindnilaudio@magnolia.com Music Credits: Valante / Ramo …
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Libby and Alex discuss the importance of supporting friends and how to show up for them. They reflect on their recent experience of supporting each other during one of Libby’s photoshoots in New York City, and the impact it had on Libby’s confidence during the shoot. They also explore the concept of trust and emotional safety in relationships, as w…
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Sharon Salzberg is a meditation pioneer, world-renowned teacher, and New York Times bestselling author. In fact, if you’ve come across the word ‘mindfulness’ in the past decade, Sharon has had a lot to do with it (at least here in the United States). On this episode of 50 Fires, Sharon shares how her experiences in India and Burma shaped her as a c…
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Everyone has a meaningful story about money. What's yours? Start by answering this question: What's your earliest memory of money? Share yours by emailing Carl - hello@behaviorgap.com Email List: Sign up at https://www.50fires.com/ for our monthly email with resources for financial advisors! Follow 50 Fires on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/5…
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Walk Star Arianna Iappini and Libby discuss their love of walking and specifically its connection to nature. They talk about their walking practices and the importance of finding joy, awe, and peace in nature. Arianna shares her journey with Birch Arbor Gardens, her business that teaches her gardening techniques and connects people to the natural w…
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If you’ve ever felt like the investment advice you get feels closer from sources like CNBC feels like gambling (AKA The Financial Pornography Network) and want to be thoughtful about investing, this episode of 50 Fires is a great place to start. Carl welcomes Meb Faber, a co-founder and the Chief Investment Officer of Cambria Investment Management.…
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Have you ever found yourself gripped by the terrifying thought of your money running out? Join Carl in this bonus solo episode of 50 Fires, as he contemplates financial anxiety. Imagine if we viewed money not as a dwindling resource but as something more fluid and replenishable? This 'minisode' isn't just about financial strategies; it's an introsp…
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J.R. Harris is a lifelong explorer and wilderness trekker. Also known as the Red Hat Trekker, J.R. has walked more than fifty multi-week treks since 1966 - most of them on his own - facing terrible weather, hair-raising river crossings and wildlife encounters along the way. In this conversation with Libby, J.R. shares his love for walking and the o…
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Scott Ballew is a filmmaker, singer, and songwriter who has taken a remarkable journey from directing adventure films for Yeti to releasing music as a solo artist starting in his late 30s. Carl explores Scott's upbringing in a modest household in Austin, Texas, where his family faced financial struggles but maintained a stable environment. Scott de…
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Biomechanist and Author Katy Bowman describes how a movement diet, just like a food diet, is important for nourishing our bodies and maintaining optimal health. Just like we need a balanced diet of macronutrients and micronutrients for optimal health, Katy speaks with Libby about how we also need a variety of movements to nourish our bodies. In thi…
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Born to drug-dealing parents in rural Indiana, J. Dana Trent was a preschooler the first time she used a razor blade to cut up weed and fill dime bags for her schizophrenic father, King. This is the opening log line to her new memoir “Between Two Trailers”, and it is a wild story. She talks with Carl about the experience of hustling with her father…
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When former Major League Baseball Player Dexter Fowler was drafted out of high school in 2004, he signed for $1 million dollars and immediately got a wealth advisor. He played 14 years in the league, and despite all of his success on the field, he attributes his success off the field to his parents, wife, and children. As Dexter explains to Carl in…
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Nedra Tawwab, therapist and author of the NY Times Bestseller “Set Boundaries, Find Peace: A Guide to Reclaiming Yourself”, joins Libby and Alex to share her love of walking and how it connects her to nature and spirituality. As the conversation evolves, Nedra emphasizes the value of allowing oneself to be undone and to feel the full range of emoti…
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Shannah Game and Carl have one important thing in common: they both love talking about money. Shannah, a Certified Financial Planner and Trauma of Money Specialist has been talking about money for a long time. As host of the podcast Everyone’s Talkin’ Money, Shannah’s goal is to help people see their money as a tool they can use to create they want…
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Good friends Liz Paley and Amanda Hesser join Libby to discuss their recent completion of The Great Saunter - a walk that covers the entire island of Manhattan in one day. The Great Saunter is a daylong walk that explores Manhattan’s 32-mile shoreline, visiting more than 20 parks and promenades of Manhattan. Liz and Amanda talk about the history of…
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The impact David Booth has had on your financial life is profound, whether you realize it or not. David is the co-founder of Dimensional Fund Advisors, a firm that fundamentally changed the way we make everyday decisions about practical investing and money. David knew the future of investing would depend on data, so in 1981 he moved a noisy, hot, r…
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Libby welcomes Photographer, Podcaster, and Artist Dario Calmese to discuss abundance and its connection to curiosity. They explore how curiosity leads to the discovery of new ideas and experiences, and how abundance is an artifact of that curiosity. Dario and Libby also discuss the concept of walking as a creative act and its ability to access dif…
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Catherine Bailey, co-owner of Heath Ceramics, discusses the journey of the company and the importance of preserving its soul and values. Libby and Catherine explore the design philosophy of Heath, which combines elegance and utility, and the democratization of high design that company co-founder Edith Heath helped to create in the 20th Century. The…
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50 Fires returns with new episodes! Carl gets deep on money and what it means with Index Pioneer David Booth, Bestselling Author Greg McKeown, Meditation Guru Sharon Salzberg, and many more*: June 26: Dimensional Co-Founder David Booth July 03: Host of Everyone’s Talkin’ Money Shannah Game July 10: World Series Champion Dexter Fowler July 17: Bests…
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Alex and Libby catch up in a conversation that explores self-worth, breaks down negative self-talk, and challenges future aspirations (they also try to figure out how to finally open their own tea shop together…someday). Keep in touch: https://www.thismorningwalk.com/ Instagram: @thismorningwalk Alex Instagram: @alex_elle Libby Instagram: @parkhere…
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Fellow Walk Star Silas Grant joins Libby to share his journey of transformation through walking. “I started my walk five years ago, in June of 2019. Around that time, my wife and I had our daughter and I was at home with her on paternity leave. At the time I was teetering around close to 300 pounds. I had a couple of health scares - so I took my da…
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Libby welcomes two of her closest walking partners - Cheryl Richardson and Beth Platow - to the show this week for a conversation about friendship, joy, self-care, and a sense of belonging. Cheryl Richardson is a pioneer in the practice of self-care and New York Times bestselling author of multiple books on the subject, and Beth Platow is an author…
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Libby welcomes her dear friend Becca Skinner to discuss the loss of Becca's dog and walking companion, Veda. They discuss how Becca established trust and exploration with Veda during their walks, how she’s dealt with Veda’s passing by temporarily stopping her walking practice, and picking it up again after learning how to build trust with a new fou…
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Libby welcomes Nadya Okamoto, the co-Founder of August, a lifestyle brand working to reimagine periods to be powerful. This episode is an invitation to reflect on the shame that we as a society have put on menstruation and how we think and talk about it. Through August, Nadya encourages open conversations about periods and the importance of inclusi…
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50 Fires is taking a very short break to gear up for Season 2 with even more meaningful conversations about money. In this quick episode, Carl invites you to kindle your own enlightening discussions around money with a spouse, family member, or dear friend, and offers 5 simple, yet impactful steps to start these conversations: Look for time and spa…
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Libby welcomes author and artist Katrina Rodabaugh to discuss the intersection of walking, creativity, and motherhood. Katrina’s work is focused on the overlap of sustainability, craft, and design, which mostly means that she mends things: Jeans, sweaters, our old farmhouse, and more. After taking one of her classes on mending, Libby met Katrina an…
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Exciting news is afoot! As Alex has secures a publisher for her next book, she and Libby take some time to catch up and reflect on the process of writing, potential themes for the new book, and plans for the upcoming Summer. Keep in touch: https://www.thismorningwalk.com/ Instagram: @thismorningwalk Alex Instagram: @alex_elle Libby Instagram: @park…
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Carl welcomes journalist, writer, surfer, climber, father and husband Daniel Duane to reflect on a life and career guided by passionate pursuits and what happens when that career suddenly seems unviable. The conversation raises questions about the meaning of a simpler life and how to navigate the complexities of money in the present as the cost of …
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Author Elissa Altman joins Libby to discuss her practice of walking, writing, and the themes of her books, including Motherland, which explores her complicated relationship with her mother. She also talks about her upcoming book, On Permission: A Manifesto For Writers, Artists, and Dreamers, which delves into the concept of finding permission in cr…
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Podcaster, Author, and Financial Journalist Farnoosh Torabi discusses the impact of her parents’ approach to money growing up as a first generation Iranian family in Massachusetts, and how the gender dynamics of their relationship impacted her at an early age. She reflects on how her childhood experiences shaped her perception of money and the impo…
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Comedian Pete Holmes reflects on his relationship with money and how it relates to his sense of freedom, creativity, and play. In this wide ranging conversation, Carl and Pete explore how money impacts our anxiety, and the role that spirituality plays in helping to reduce that tension. From Pete’s early days in standup comedy, to his eventual succe…
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Libby and Alex catch up on various topics that have emerged during recent walks. They talk about the importance of paying attention to details in life and the process of letting go and embracing change. They also touch on Alex's upcoming book and the emotions that often come when working with new collaborators. Keep in touch: https://www.thismornin…
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Alex and Libby celebrate two major milestones together - the release of Alex’s fragrance Heal The Way and Libby getting to write a book about her walking practice and the steps she’s taken to make it a reality. Along the way, they emphasize the importance of enrolling supportive friends in the process of celebrating our triumphs and sharing good ne…
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On this week’s episode of 50 Fires, Carl keeps things in the family by having a discussion about money with his oldest daughter, Lindsay Richards. Lindsay is a 27-year old finance professional living in New York City, and as the oldest of 4 kids, she has a lot of perspective on how her parents handled money as she and her siblings grew up. From her…
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Hal Hershfield is a leading expert on the psychology of making decisions, but that doesn’t mean that he always makes the right decisions about money, which should be reassuring for us all to hear. A Professor of Marketing, Behavioral Decision Making, and Psychology at UCLA’s Anderson School of Management, Hal joins Carl to discuss some of his earli…
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