Dean Radin, MS, PhD, Magic and the Frontiers of Consciousness

Pushing Boundaries with Dr. Thomas R Verny

My guest today is Dr. Dean Radin - Following a career in classical violin, Dean went on to earn an undergraduate degree in electrical engineering from the University of Massachusetts, Amhurst, a master’s degree in electrical engineering and a doctorate in educational psychology from the University of Illinois, Urbana-Champaign. After his graduation, Dean conducted research at Princeton and University of Edinburgh and was a faculty member at University of Nevada, Las Vegas.
Presently, Dean is Chief Scientist at the Institute of Noetic Sciences founded by Astronaut Dr. Edgar Mitchell 50 years ago after the Apollo-14 mission.
Dean is the best-selling Author of four books:
The conscious universe : the scientific truth of psychic phenomena, (2009).
Supernormal: Science, Yoga, and the Evidence for Extraordinary Psychic Abilities, (2013), reissued as The Noetic Universe, (2011)
Entangled Minds: Extrasensory Experiences in a Quantum Reality (2006)
Real Magic: Ancient Wisdom, Modern Science, and a Guide to the Secret Power of the Universe, (2018)
Dean is also a musician.
I enquired as to the meaning of noetic. Dean explained that in its simplest form, it means deep intuition. And intuition is knowing without knowing how. But you know it with a deep conviction, that it is correct. You don't know how you know that or you don't even know where the conviction came from. But when you check, it turns out that you're correct based on some externally verifiable event or knowledge.
We spoke of Practical Magic, as something science has been studying unwittingly in the form of psychic phenomena. According to this view consciousness is primary in the universe. This provides a worldview, where suddenly the mind is the most powerful thing that there is, in which case the mind is primary over physics, not constrained by notions of space, or time, or distance. Then Dean proceeds to delineate how the magical traditions fall into three different practices.
We discuss mediums and spirits, haunted houses and what Einstein called “spooky action at a distance.” Maybe there's memory everywhere.
At one point in his life, Dean joined a secret government program that was looking explicitly at psychic phenomena. The US government was interested in it, for two reasons. One was that there had been reports primarily out of Russia and China, that they had secret programs going on using these kinds of psychic abilities. And we needed to know whether it was a threat.. But the other half of it was, they had also found people who were very good at clairvoyance, and they were using it for espionage. This and much more you will find in the podcast.
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