Rethinking M&M

EM Pulse Podcast™

In this episode, we dive into the charged world of Morbidity and Mortality conferences—where good intentions can collide with fear, shame, and silence. We’ve all felt that jolt of adrenaline sitting in the audience—or worse, standing at the podium. Our guest expert, Dr. Jaymin Patel, helps us unpack why the traditional M&M model no longer works and how we can rebuild it into something better: a space that turns mistakes into meaningful learning, supports both patient and provider healing, and helps us face our ghosts without fear.

How do you think we can improve M&M? Share your ideas with us on social media @empulsepodcast or connect with us on ucdavisem.com

Hosts:

Dr. Julia Magaña, Professor of Pediatric Emergency Medicine at UC Davis

Dr. Sarah Medeiros, Professor of Emergency Medicine at UC Davis

Guest:

Dr. Jaymin Patel, Assistant Professor of Emergency Medicine and Assistant Residency Program Director at UC Davis

Resources:

ALiEM: The M&M Shame Game; Case by Dr. Tamara McColl

Nussenbaum B, Chole RA. Rethinking Morbidity and Mortality Conference. Otolaryngol Clin North Am. 2019 Feb;52(1):47-53. doi: 10.1016/j.otc.2018.08.007. Epub 2018 Oct 5. PMID: 30297182.

Wittels K, Aaronson E, Dwyer R, Nadel E, Gallahue F, Fee C, Tubbs R, Schuur J; EM M&M Culture of Safety Research Team. Emergency Medicine Morbidity and Mortality Conference and Culture of Safety: The Resident Perspective. AEM Educ Train. 2017 May 4;1(3):191-199. doi: 10.1002/aet2.10033. PMID: 30051034; PMCID: PMC6001737.

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Thank you to the UC Davis Department of Emergency Medicine for supporting this podcast and to Orlando Magaña at OM Productions for audio production services.