Open Conversations with Michael Shikashio and Dr. Kathy Murphy: Moving Past Polarization in the Training World

Worry Less, Wag More: The Behavior Vets Podcast

In this episode, we discuss how to have difficult conversations with other trainers who may not share a similar approach to training dogs. This conversation was a response to Mike Shikashio’s recent appearance on a trainer’s podcast who uses and teaches training with aversive tools. Was it a mistake to “reach across the aisle”?

• Keeping communication lines open
• Navigating sensitive conversations
• Shifting away from the 4 quadrants
• Understanding emotions related to behavior

Dr. Kathy Murphy’s bio:
Dr Kathy Murphy (BVetMed, DPhil, CVA, CLAS, MRCVS) is a veterinary surgeon and neuroscientist. She graduated from the Royal College of Veterinary Surgeons UK in 1999, initially working in mixed clinical practice before studying for two post graduate clinical qualifications with the Royal College of Veterinary Surgeons, in Veterinary Anaesthesia and Analgesia, and Laboratory Animal Science.

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Mike’s bio:
Michael Shikashio, CDBC, is the founder of AggressiveDog.com and focuses on teaching other professionals from around the world on how to successfully work aggression cases. He is a five-term president of the International Association of Animal Behavior Consultants (IAABC) and was the Association of Professional Dog Trainers (APDT) Member of the Year in 2020.
Michael is sought after for his expert opinion by numerous media outlets, including the New York Times, New York Post, Fox News, The List TV, Baltimore Sun, WebMD, Women’s Health Magazine, Real Simple Magazine, SiriusXM Radio, The Chronicle of the Dog, and Steve Dale’s Pet World. He also hosts the popular podcast show “The Bitey End of the Dog” where he chats with the foremost experts on dog aggression.
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