Confessions of An Internet Self-Defense O.G. (Episode 042)

The Martial Arts Podcast with Phil Elmore

Phil Elmore, an original gangster of the 1990s and early 2000s self-defense forums (and the industry that followed) speaks out on the development and evolution of the self-defense industry, from its founding by John Keehan, to the VHS tape personality marketing days, to today's streaming content model.
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