59 Why We Get Fat Pt. 2, with National Bestselling author, Gary Taubes

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We continue our conversation with Gary Taubes, journalist and author of the bestseller Why We Get Fat. In this episode Gary reveals a pet peeve of his: the establishment still considers Ketogenic and Low Carbohydrate/High Fat (LCHF) diets very unhealthy ways to eat, even though the recent resurgence of those diets has generated scores of clinical trials that appear to support the safety and effectiveness of this way of eating. Exasperated, he wrote an article on the subject, which was published in Canada’s, The Globe and Mail. Gary gets emotional when he relates a story a doctor told him about a patient, newly diagnosed with type-2 diabetes, whose health improved dramatically by following a LCHF diet. We discuss President Clinton’s success on a vegan diet. Gary has a strong response for those who think that such success stories are just anecdotes, not science. We then consider what to do when your doctor tells you to get off the LCHF diet regardless of your success. The episode ends with speculation on whether LCHF diets will ever be endorsed by the American Dietary Association (ADA) and the American Heart Association (AHA). http://garytaubes.com/

Gary’s books:

http://garytaubes.com/works/books/good-calories-bad-calories/

http://garytaubes.com/works/books/why-we-get-fat/

http://garytaubes.com/works/books/the-case-against-sugar-2016/

Gary’s Globe And Mail article:
https://www.theglobeandmail.com/opinion/minimal-carbs-lots-of-fat-incredible-results-but-no-science/article37402123/

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Inform_Taubes 2_June 11 Transcript

Arlene [00:00:01] The Inform Fitness podcast with Adam Zickerman and co-host Mike Rogers is a presentation of Inform Fitness studios, a small family of personal training facilities specializing in safe efficient high intensity strength training. On our bi monthly podcast Adam and Mike discuss the latest findings in the areas of exercise nutrition and recovery with leading experts and scientists. We aim to debunk the popular misconceptions and the urban myths that are so prevalent in the fields of health and fitness. And to replace those sacred cows with scientific based up to the minute information on a variety of subjects. We'll cover exercise protocols and techniques nutrition sleep recovery the role of genetics in the response to exercise and much more.

Arlene [00:00:59] On this episode Why We Get Fat. Part two. We welcome back national best selling author Gary Taubess.

Gary [00:01:06] If it's a physician who is overweight. I say Why don't you try it yourself. An experiment. Not going to kill you to go without carbs for two months. You know if at the end of two months you haven't don't feel healthier you haven't lost weight your blood pressure hasn't come down your waist size hasn't gotten smaller. Go back to eating potato chips.

Adam [00:01:27] Well we're back with Gary Taubes. He is the co-founder of Nutrition Science Initiative and author of The Case Against sugar Why We Get Fat and the tome Good Calories Bad Calories. And I'm here again with Mike Rogers and Neil Holland to continue our conversation. I would like to talk about a recent article that you wrote in Canada's The Globe and Mail. You make so many good points and I hope we get to cover most of them. And we'll put a link to it in our show notes. Totally worth the read. And correct me if I'm wrong Gary but I believe it's a response to the recent resurgence in popularity of the low carbohydrate high fat diets particularly the ketogenic diet. Or like we mentioned in the last episode Keto for short and while you admit that much more research needs to be done you take exception to calling Ketogenic Diets a fad, correct?.

Gary [00:02:17] Well yeah. Well again the reason I wrote that is there's this dichotomy that emerge. So when I look back I got into this right around the year 2000 and since then when I first started doing this research there were I figured there are maybe a dozen physicians in America who were pushing low carb high fat ketogenic diet you know and half of them had written books about them. So you know you had. The Atkins and they the Eades Mike and Mary Nan Eades and the sugar Buster people and at the time if you want to lose weight they accepted the idea was you had to eat less basically that you had to eat a calorie restricted diet maybe cut 500 calories or a thousand calories day. And it had to be a low fat diet and these ketogenic diet would kill people you know Atkins was a quack and he was a con man and a shyster and that's it. So now you come 19 years or 18 years into the future and we've now got thousands maybe a few tens of thousands of physicians around the world who have decided like you guys that these low carb high fat ketogenic diet just make their patients healthier. So if you can get people with obesity and diabetes who eat this way it's a way of eating the short term diet. You can put their obesity in remission and then one way to think about it you get significant weight loss you can put their diabetes in remission and get them out their diabetes drugs and their hypertension drugs and they have chronic pain that tends to get better and. A few years ago 2017 there was a letter to the Huffington Post co-authored by a hundred plus physicians in Canada saying look. Not only do we. Low carb high fat ketogenic diet. But that's what we prescribe our patients. We see these remarkable results and we can't unsee them. That's a phrase these Canadians like Can't unsee what we're seeing and we're not changing we're not going back to the you know we were we used to eat the conventional diets are the healthy conventional healthy way of eating our patients. Did you know some of us were vegetarians and most were vegan some of them were world class athletes and they were getting fatter or they were getting diabetic they had become pre diabetic anyway and when they shifted to this low carb high fat Atkins like eating they got healthy and when they prescribed it to their patients and then the flip side is you still have organizations like every year U.S. News and World Report has a committee of you know quote expert nutritionists and authorities who decide on what the healthiest diets are. And they always say the same thing. And the low carb high fat ketogenic diet come in the least healthy diets imaginable. I think they included 39 or 40 diet and these ketogenic diet were 35 to 40 and really basing a they're basing it on the assessment of the expert and the experts are the people who for the last 50 years have been telling us we should eat less and not too much and mostly plans you know a Mediterranean diet all the things we've been doing and getting fatter anyway doing so. I wanted to sort of explore this conflict. And. You've got physicians more and more every year saying if I can get my patients to eat this way I can get them healthy. Get them off th...