Everything SVM: Scaling Blockchain & Powering Unstoppable Apps with Celestia’s Nick White

The Index Podcast

What if building a blockchain was as easy as deploying a smart contract? On this episode of Everything SVM on The Index, co-hosts Alex Kehaya and Omar Zaki, CEO of Mantis, sit down with Nick White, Vice President of Celestia Labs, to explore how modular blockchain architectures revolutionize scalability and innovation. Nick breaks down Celestia’s groundbreaking approach, which separates execution from consensus and data availability, providing developers with unprecedented flexibility. This paradigm shift is key to overcoming the bottlenecks that have long-constrained networks like Ethereum and Solana.

The conversation ventures into the rapidly evolving landscape of DeFi protocols and application-specific chains, where innovation is reshaping how developers build decentralized applications. With Solana’s high-speed block times pushing the limits of transaction efficiency, we examine how modular solutions like roll-ups could unlock even faster confirmations and tailored scalability. The AppChain thesis takes center stage as we explore Celestia-based projects that exemplifies the potential for customizable and private transactions.

They discuss the next evolution of blockchain development, where deploying roll-ups on Celestia might soon be more accessible than launching a smart contract. As we unpack the challenges of modular ecosystems and the solutions emerging to address them, we paint a vision of the ultimate end game for blockchain scalability—a future where modular chains provide unmatched flexibility, efficiency, and innovation.

Celestia: https://celestia.org/

Mantis: https://mantis.app/

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1. Blockchain Modularity and Scalability Debate (00:00:00)

2. Blockchain Scaling Throughput and Data Availability (00:14:37)

3. The Power of Blockchain Modularity (00:27:04)

4. DeFi Protocols and Application-Specific Chains (00:31:28)

5. Launching Roll-Ups and App Chains (00:38:52)