20/20 MONEY, hosted by Certified Financial Planner and experienced Wealth Adviser Adam Cmejla, aims to bring clarity to financial concepts and strategies that impact optometrists. For more information on the show and on Adam, please visit https://www.integratedpwm.com/
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Welcome to this episode of 20/20 Money! My guest on today’s show is Mike Neal, OD. Mike joins me on the show to talk about something that we’ve indirectly talked about on various episodes in the past: delegation. Specifically, we talk about the mindset shift that happened for Mike when he started looking at his team as an investment in the business…
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Five ways optometry practice owners could be myopic in their ownership journey with Erich Mattei from Akrinos
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Welcome to this episode of 20/20 Money! My guest on today’s show is Erich Mattei, founder of Akrinos. In this conversation, Erich and I discuss five specific concepts and ways that optometrists can make prudent business decisions in their practice and reduce the chances of making a strategic wrong decision. As a reminder, you can get all the inform…
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"Things that make you go 'What?!?" as a practice consultant w/ Jennifer Stewart
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Welcome to this episode of 20/20 Money! My guest on today’s show is Dr. Jennifer Stewart, founder of the private practice Look New Canaan and OD Perspectives. In this episode, we talk about two major themes that she’s observed over the years as she has consulted with both friends and colleagues. Whether it be an OD launching a cold start or trying …
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Welcome to this episode of 20/20 Money! My guest on today’s show is Daniel Palmer, founder of Morether Creative, a Fractional CMO for optometrists nationwide. In this conversation, we talk through and explain the Story Brand process and the SB7 framework. We talk about the common marketing mistakes that biz owners (not just ODs) make when it comes …
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How leadership impacts practice success (and ways to improve your leadership skills) with Bethany Fishbein
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Welcome to this episode of 20/20 Money! My guest on today’s show is Dr. Bethany Fishbein, OD, Consultant & Executive Coach with Leaders of Vision. Bethany and I talk about a topic that an OD might not think about directly correlating to the financials of a practice: leadership skills. However, I believe that we quickly illustrate in our conversatio…
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Bonus structures that work for non-OD team members w/ Dr. Michael Neal, OD
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Welcome to this episode of 20/20 Money! My guest on today’s show is Dr. Michael Neal, OD. Michael joins me back on the show to discuss bonus structures that work for non-producing members of your team, and how they can be put together in a way that is advantageous to both the team member and the overall growth of the practice. As a reminder, you ca…
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What an interest rate cut means for optometry practices (and strategies for practices in changing economic times)
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In this episode, we break down why the Federal Reserve decided to cut interest rates by 0.5% (50 basis points) and what it signals about the economy. More importantly, we dive into actionable steps that optometry practice owners can take to benefit from these lower rates while preparing for potential economic shifts. Resources: 20/20 Money Communit…
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Welcome to this episode of 20/20 Money! My guest on today’s show is Dr. Kurt Steele, OD. Kurt joins me back on the show to talk in further detail how he and his partners have structured their compensation structure in a way that works for everyone in the practice while also ensuring that there is parity in comp based on the amount of revenue that e…
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Why focusing on “profit” in your optometry practice might not be the most effective owner metric to measure (and which ones you SHOULD focus on) with Nathan Hayes of Books & Benchmarks
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Welcome to this episode of 20/20 Money! My guest on today’s show is Nathan Hayes from Books & Benchmarks. Nathan joins me back on the show to talk all things business financials and how owners should be thinking about actual profit in a business—and where to look in your business financials to learn how much money the practice has actually provided…
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How to lead Millennials, the importance of asking good questions, and building relationships with your team: a conversation with Chris Tuff
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Welcome to this episode of 20/20 Money! My guest on today’s show is Chris Tuff. Chris is the author of the book The Millennial Whisperer and in this conversation we talk about all things related to leading a team. As one might expect, a lot of the conversation that we had is applicable to leading all team members—not just Millennials. We talk about…
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The difference between satisfied & engaged employees, why you should care about a performance management strategy, MAGIC, and how all of this matters to your profitability with Dr. David Mason, Ph.D.
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Welcome to this episode of 20/20 Money! My guest on today’s show is David Mason, Ph.D. David joins me on the show to talk about a seemingly abstract but important distinction that you should consider when thinking about your team: do you have satisfied team members or engaged team members? Our conversation spills over into multiple different topics…
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Revisiting the customer experience journey in a post-COVID economy with Dennis Moseley Williams
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Welcome to this episode of 20/20 Money! My guest on today’s show is Dennis Moseley Williams. Dennis joins me to revisit the importance of the customer experience on the success of your practice. He shares the five phases of the patient experience and how to think differently about the way you engage your patients in your practice. I really love hav…
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IT'S (A)LIVE!! IT'S (A)LIVE!! The 20/20 Money Membership™ is LIVE!! (plus, thinking through the math of buying into a practice)
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Today's episode is a bit special because I'm FINALLY able to announce that the 20/20 Money Membership is live! The beginning of the show is a walk-through of the membership, the offering, who it's for, and why I created it. One IMPORTANT item that I didn't share in the episode: join the Membership by September 30th using promo code FOUNDER and get …
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Why embracing myopia control makes sense for both your business and your patients with Dr. Justin Kwan, OD, FAAO
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Welcome to this episode of 20/20 Money! My guest on today’s show is Dr. Justin Kwon, OD. Justin joins me on the show to talk all things myopia control. Justin’s passion for this topic is very evident and I found our conversation very informative. While there’s the obvious clinical angle that is a deeper and separate discussion than what we had here…
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What associate ODs REALLY value in their role in a private practice, alignment of expectations between owner and associate ODs, and how to ask good interview questions with Dr. Chris Lopez, OD
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Welcome to this episode of 20/20 Money! My guest on today’s show is Dr. Chris Lopez. Chris joined me back on the show to talk about all things related to the associate OD/owner OD relationships. As the career consultant at ODs on Finance, Chris has a unique perspective and gives us insight on the conversations he has been having with both associate…
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Welcome to this episode of 20/20 Money! My guest on today’s show is Pete Kehoe, OD. Pete joins me back on the show to discuss all the hard lessons he and his team have recently learned while they navigated their practice being shut down due to a massive ice storm that destroyed a large portion of the building's roof. Pete shares more about the head…
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Thoughts and opinions on the state & future of private practice optometry from the president of a $110 million optometry organization: a conversation with John Marvin, President of Texas State Optical
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Welcome to this episode of 20/20 Money! My guest on today’s show is John Marvin President of Texas State Optical. As one of the country’s oldest optometry business models, TSO has seen many different headwinds and tailwinds that have impacted optometry. As President of TSO over the past 20 years, John has seen TSO grow into one of the top 10 retail…
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Welcome to this episode of 20/20 Money! My guest on today’s show is Tim Merrigan with Acquios Advisors. In the 16 years or so that I’ve been an advisor, I’ve noticed that there’s something “motivating” about turning 50: people start thinking about their lives differently and thus they start re-evaluating the way they’ve been investing and spending …
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A commercial real estate update and the importance of the real estate when selling a practice with Mike Jorgenson of Carr Healthcare Realty
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Welcome to this episode of 20/20 Money! My guest on today’s show is Mike Jorgenson with Carr Healthcare Realty. Mike joins me back on the show to give us an update on what he and his team around the country are seeing in the commercial real estate market. We also dive into some of the considerations, mistakes, and blind spots that both buyers and s…
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An optometry marketing conversation with Eugene Shatsman: the importance of the Google "snack pack" for your practice, why online scheduling is table stakes, why linking to your Google Biz Profile is a ...
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Welcome to this episode of 20/20 Money! My guest on today’s show is Eugene Shatsman, Managing Partner of National Strategic Group and new host of The Power Hour Podcast. In this wide-reaching marketing conversation, Eugene shares a variety of “low hanging marketing fruit” mistakes and misconceptions that practice owners nationwide have about how ma…
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Easy and conspicuous ways to avoid tax mistakes and penalties, how proactive conversations can smooth out your annual tax payment plan, and the intersection of tax and estate planning with Amber Morgan ...
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Welcome to this episode of 20/20 Money! My guest on today’s show is Amber Morgan, CPA with Mohr CPAs. In the wake of tax season, Amber and I run through some of the easy and conspicuous action items that you can take proactively over the year that not only will have a positive impact on your overall tax planning, but also make for a happy and produ…
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Aligning staff and leadership expectations during the hiring process and building out your HR infrastructure with Amanda Bennett, founder of EyeHR
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Welcome to this episode of 20/20 Money! My guest on today’s show is Amanda Bennett. Amanda joins me on the show to talk about a topic that we’ve discussed directly and indirectly on this show—human capital. Specifically, Amanda talks about a gap that she saw in the hiring process over the years and how she developed a platform to help automate part…
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Implementing equipment purchases and expanding scope of care with intentionality in your optometry practice with Dr. Ryan Gustus
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Welcome to this episode of 20/20 Money! My guest on today’s show is Dr. Ryan Gustus, OD. Ryan joins me on the show live from Vision Expo East to discuss something that is very timely given the recording location: how practice owners can think about the implementation of various pieces of equipment in your practice to ensure that it's done with inte…
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As a reminder, you can get all the information discussed in today’s conversation by visiting our website at integratedpwm.com and clicking on the Learning Center. While there, be sure to subscribe to our monthly “planning life on purpose” newsletter that’s filled with tips and ideas to help you plan life on purpose. You can also set up a Triage con…
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Welcome to this episode of 20/20 Money! My guest on today’s show is Dr. Adam Ramsey, OD. Adam joins me back on the show to continue the conversation that we teased at the end of our first conversation which was how Adam evaluated the decision to go out of network with a variety of VCPs that he was taking in his practice. He shares how he came to th…
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How to use (and NOT use) benchmarks with Nathan Hayes
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Welcome to this episode of 20/20 Money! My guest on today’s show is Nathan Hayes with IDOC. Nathan joins me back on the show and we put a quantitative spin on our conversation today. We talk all things benchmarks and margins in an optometry practice. We discuss how to use benchmarks to make smart practice decisions and ways in which benchmarks can …
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In the spirit of managing information overload, I wanted to take a week to pause on new information and rather share a process or organizing and prioritizing your thoughts, goals, and actions that can often stem from listening to shows like 20/20 Money and the consumption of other content. Resources: 20/20 Money Community Information reMarkable 2 T…
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Harnessing the power and momentum from optometry meetings with your operations manager: a conversation with Dr. Todd Cohan & Sadie Blair
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Welcome to this episode of 20/20 Money! My guests on today’s show are Dr. Todd Cohan and Sadie Blair. Todd & Sadie join me on the show today to talk about the successful dynamic that exists between both of them as owner and practice operations manager. Todd shares how impactful it’s been to have a great team member and integrator like Sadie in the …
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Hiring, empowering, and leading your practice manager in a win-win relationship with Dr. Bethany Fishbein, OD
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Welcome to this episode of 20/20 Money! My guest on today’s show is Bethany Fishbein, OD. Bethany joins me on the show live from Vision Expo East to talk about one of the most important relationships in an optometric practice: the relationship between the practice manager and the owner/OD. In this conversation, she talks about the evolution of the …
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Dr. Jennifer Stewart's "tepid" start optometry practice: the power of vision & intentionality, the importance of an ideal patient avatar, and reconciling business risk with a conservative personality
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Welcome to this episode of 20/20 Money! My guest on today’s show is Dr. Jennifer Stewart, OD. Jen joins me on the show today to talk through her journey launching her tepid start practice, Look New Canaan. I’ve had Jen on the show multiple times in the past, and this was admittedly one of my more enjoyable conversations with a podcast guest. Maybe …
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Increasing optical revenue by rethinking--from buying to selling--your frame management with Kayla Ashlee of Spexy
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Welcome to this episode of 20/20 Money! My guest on today’s show is Kayla Ashlee from Spexy. Kayla joins me live on location at IDOC Connection 2024 to talk all things optical. Optical is admittedly an area of practice management that has always been intriguing because of the retail component—I feel like there are a lot of “retail 101” lessons that…
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Using Medical Virtual Assistants in your practice to increase efficiency (and profitability) with Dr. Adam Ramsey, OD
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Welcome to this episode of 20/20 Money! My guest on today’s show is Dr. Adam Ramsey, OD, representing VA Healthcare. In this episode, we talk about the role that a virtual medical assistant can play in your practice’s patient flow and how to think about the changes that you’d have to make in your practice for this to be a viable option. Adam provid…
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Hiring an associate full time vs easing into it: the discussion, numbers, and mindset for optometry practice owners with Nathan Hayes
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Welcome to this episode of 20/20 Money! My guest on today’s show is Nathan Hayes from IDOC. Nathan joins me back on the show to discuss and dialogue about the two basic ways practice owners can think about the way in which they hire associates for their practice: easing into it by bringing them into the practice gradually or proactively planning ah…
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Welcome to this episode of 20/20 Money! My guest on today’s show is Dr. Kurt Steele, OD. Kurt joins me back on the show to talk in further detail how he and his partners have structured their compensation structure in a way that works for everyone in the practice while also ensuring that there is parity in comp based on the amount of revenue that e…
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How a hyper-effective, right-fit team can increase your profitability: a follow up convo with Dr. Mike Neal, OD
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Welcome to this episode of 20/20 Money! My guest on today’s show is Dr. Mike Neal, OD. Mike is the founder of a number of different businesses, include a primary care practice in PA called Lakeside Vision and Build My Team, an effective outsourced hiring system for eyecare that does not use resumes. Mike joins me back on the show to provide additio…
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Reconciling a successful succession plan with a growing practice with Dr. Kurt Steele, OD
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Welcome to this episode of 20/20 Money! My guest on today’s show is Dr. Kurt Steele, OD. Kurt is one of the owners of Precision Eyecare, a member of the Vision Source Network, in Newport, TN and also the founder of Legit Vision, a consulting firm to help ODs unlock the potential in their practice. Kurt joins me on the show today to talk through the…
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Using a cash balance plan strategies when you sell your practice with Charlie Steingas of Cash Balance Actuaries, Inc.
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Welcome to this episode of 20/20 Money! My guest on today’s show is Charlie Steingas, founder and chief actuary at Cash Balance Actuaries, a firm that specializes in the design, implementation, and ongoing monitoring of cash balance plans. In this episode, we define what a cash balance plan is and how it’s different from a defined benefit plan (hin…
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"Flights and Insights" with Dr. Michael Neal: Implementing finance charges, profit sharing with team members, associate comp structures, and new reads
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Welcome to this episode of 20/20 Money! My guest on today’s show is Dr. Michael Neal, OD and this is another episode in which I experimented a bit with the format of 20/20 Money: we recorded this episode at 8,000 feet, flying from Indianapolis to Chicago! As you’ll hear in the beginning of the episode, Mike was in town meeting up with other success…
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An optometry practice "cold start" update with Drs. Bob Steinmetz & Eric Baas, OD from iCare Advisors
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Welcome to this episode of 20/20 Money! My guests on today’s show are Drs. Eric Baas and Bob Steinmetz, co-founders of iCare advisors, a consulting firm dedicated to the success of cold start practices nationwide. With close to 350 successful cold starts nationwide and 11 practice starts between them, I was really excited to have them back on the s…
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Insights into practice financing and lending for optometrists with Kevin Wills from PNC Bank
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Welcome to this episode of 20/20 Money! My guest on today’s show is Kevin Wills. Kevin is Sr. Vice President, Healthcare Business Banking with PNC Bank and I wanted to have Kevin on the show to discuss the state of lending, specifically in the healthcare space, from a nationwide perspective. In this episode, Kevin and talk about steps borrowers can…
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I'VE BEEN HACKED (AGAIN!!) - Another 20/20 Money Takover with Drs. Chris Wolfe & Kyle Klute, OD
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Welcome to this episode of 20/20 Money! My guests on today’s show are two more of my favorite people in the optometry space: Drs. Chris Wolfe and Kyle Klute. Although, this is a bit of a different episode in that they’re not only guests on the show…they’re guest hosting the show! This is another 20/20 Money Takeover and basically a response to the …
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Welcome to this episode of 20/20 Money! My guest on today’s show is Dr. Ted McElroy. This is part two of our conversation that we teased on last week’s episode, and today Ted and I talk about the importance of resilience as a trait and quality that we should all embrace. He shares what resilience has meant to him in his life and how it was demonstr…
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Welcome to this episode of 20/20 Money! My guest on today’s show is Dr. Ted McElroy. This is part one of our conversation where we talk about the importance of vulnerability as a leader, and why the two traits (vulnerability from today’s episode and resilience from next’s week’s episode) are intertwined. That is to say you can’t have one without th…
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Welcome to this episode of 20/20 Money! This “housekeeping” episode is all about knowing the timely and relevant numbers that impact your various savings strategies as we enter into the new year. I also spend some time talking about an awesome new feature for defined benefit plans (thanks to SECURE Act 2.0) and a PSA to all of you that received the…
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Welcome to this episode of 20/20 Money! Kicking off the new year, I wanted to share with you three important questions I ask myself that I’ve found to be very valuable and impactful when considering new projects, initiatives, or “asks” that occur throughout the year. These questions, when asked successively and answered together, can help bring a l…
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20/20 Rewind: Forget goal-setting and focus on purpose: a mindset conversation with Stephanie Bogan
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Welcome to this episode rewind of 20/20 Money! I think I’m starting a bit of a tradition, because I felt compelled to bring back this episode again, just like I did last year, for the last episode of the 2023!! Given that this is the last episode of the year, this is usually when we are thinking about goal setting, and everyone’s schedule is anythi…
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Welcome to this episode of 20/20 Money! My guest on today’s show is Dr. Bethany Fishbein, CEO of The Power Practice and host of the Power Hour podcast. On today’s episode we continue our dialogue that we started on my last appearance on the Power Hour podcast, which was around year-end planning. However, this conversation starts with the non-financ…
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Selling or buying an optometry practice? An update on practice transitions nationwide with Erik Ferjentsik, MBA
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Welcome to this episode of 20/20 Money! My guest on today’s show is Erik Ferjentsik, MBA, founder of Visionary Practice Group. Erik and I have good, spirited discussion about transitions and what he’s seeing in the marketplace right now. We spend some time giving an update on the state of private equity, some common mistakes that he sees being made…
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Welcome to this episode of 20/20 Money! My guest on today’s show is Jackson Pace, founder of the Refractional CFO. Jackson and I talk through some of the year-end planning considerations that are likely on OD practice owners’ minds and how to think through that decision matrix. We talk about the importance of essentially beginning with the end in m…
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Year-end planning considerations (guest appearance on Power Hour podcast with Dr. Bethany Fishbein, OD)
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Welcome to this episode of 20/20 Money! This is my guest appearance on The Power Hour podcast hosted by Dr. Bethany Fishbein, OD, CEO of The Power Practice. I really enjoyed this conversation with Bethany and was grateful that she had me back on her show. We talked about year-end planning considerations (both financial and otherwise) and how practi…
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