بهترین پادکست های Goodfellow (2024)

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EP#19 - Advanced Engineering Show – Part 2 24:05

8d ago24:05

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Following on from their chat in front of a live audience at the NEC, Mark Daniels and Adam Sells meet back up with Dr Aphrodite Tomou to discuss the questions that were asked at the Advanced Engineering show and dig deeper into the answers. More information: Hosts: Mark Daniels and Dr Aphrodite Tomou. Goodfellow Cambridge Ltd: www.goodfellow.com As…

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The Comeback: The NYT’s Bret Stephens and the GoodFellows Recap the ’24 Election | GoodFellows | Hoover Institution 1:02:36

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Donald Trump will return to the Oval Office in a manner few saw coming – he won America’s popular vote; his coattails may lead to Republican control of Congress – while progressive institutions (legacy media, Hollywood, wokeism, and a tired Democratic playbook) take a beating. New York Times opinion columnist Bret Stephens joins Hoover senior fello…

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EP#18 - Live from the Advanced Engineering Show 2024 at the NEC! 22:21

15d ago22:21

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Mark Daniels and Adam Sells take Goodfellow’s Innovation, Discussed podcast on the road and record an episode in front of a live audience, talking high entropy alloys, nanomaterials and graphene-infused concrete. Listen out for the follow up episode in which Dr Aphrodite Tomou answers the questions raised during the conversation. More information: …

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Butterfly Wings & Hurricanes: The GoodFellows & Andrew Roberts Revisit Historical Counterfactuals | GoodFellows | Hoover Institution 57:51

18d ago57:51

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Imagine an alternate universe in which the American Revolution fails or where Russia rejects Leninism in its infant stage. Live from the Hoover Institution’s Fall Retreat, Lord Andrew Roberts, renowned historian and the Hoover Institution’s Bonnie and Tom McCloskey Distinguished Visiting Fellow, joins Hoover senior fellows Niall Ferguson, John Coch…

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Hope for Peace, Prepare for War, with Walter Russell Mead | GoodFellows | Hoover Institution 1:04:27

20d ago1:04:27

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Why has Israel repeatedly disregarded and gone the opposite way from the White House’s entreaties regarding the Middle East? And does the West fully fathom that Ukraine is losing its war of attrition with Russia? Walter Russell Mead, “Global View” columnist for the Wall Street Journal, joins Hoover senior fellows Niall Ferguson, John Cochrane, and …

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EP#17 - Smart Materials - The Karma Chameleon of the Materials World… 24:38

25d ago24:38

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In this episode, Mark, Adam and Aphrodite discuss smart materials. From self-healing concrete to shape-shifting alloys, Goodfellow’s team discuss the benefits of these amazing materials and what the future for them might bring. More information: Hosts: Mark Daniels and Dr Aphrodite Tomou. Goodfellow Cambridge Ltd: www.goodfellow.com Ask the panel a…

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EP#16 - What’s the point of it all? 20:32

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How are high purity foils crucial to understanding the history of the universe? Mark, Adam and Aphrodite discuss physics, neutrons and life, the universe and everything. Find out how Goodfellow are involved in the experiments that are shaping our understanding of the world around us. More information: Hosts: Mark Daniels and Dr Aphrodite Tomou. Goo…

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OK Boomers: Victor Davis Hanson, Pagers, Zelenskyy, and the Fellows “Talkin’ ‘Bout Their Generation” | GoodFellows | Hoover Institution 1:07:44

2M ago1:07:44

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Hot-wiring pagers and walkie-talkies to take out Hezbollah operatives: Was Israel’s tactic—like something from an Ian Fleming novel—a justifiable act of national security or a violation of international law? Victor Davis Hanson, the Hoover Institution’s Martin and Illie Anderson Senior Fellow and a military historian and classicist, joins GoodFello…

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Cruel Summer: McMaster’s Tour of Duty, the Debate, TSwift, and Yes, Churchill Was a Good Guy | GoodFellows | Hoover Institution 55:39

2M ago55:39

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What was it like to navigate America’s national security apparatus all the while coping with a mercurial commander-in-chief? Hoover senior fellow H.R. McMaster tells all in his new best-seller At War with Ourselves: My Tour of Duty in the White House – with additional insights provided by Hoover senior fellow Niall Ferguson, whose forthcoming biogr…

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EP#15 - Charging ahead – the past, present and future of battery technology 27:51

2M ago27:51

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Mark, Adam and Aphrodite sit down this month to discuss the history of battery technology. From the ‘Baghdad Battery’ to conceptual ‘air batteries’, Goodfellow’s hosts cover applications from hearing aids to electric aircraft. You can get involved with the conversation on social media, or email marketing@goodfellow.com with any questions or topics …

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So It Goes: Niall Ferguson on Good Books, Bad Screens, a 1968 Redux, and Hobbits | GoodFellows | Hoover Institution 47:38

3M ago47:38

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In a topsy-turvy election year, does America’s 2024 presidential contest summon ghosts from 1968 — or, is a late-breaking 1980-style landslide in the cards? Historian Niall Ferguson, the Hoover Institution’s Milbank Family Senior Fellow, appears solo on this “mini” edition of GoodFellows (or is it GoodFellow?) to discuss the current political lands…

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Gettin’ Grumpy with It: John Cochrane on the Fed, Tariffs, and Why Dogs Rule | GoodFellows | Hoover Institution 44:02

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John Cochrane, the Hoover Institution’s Rose-Marie and Jack Anderson Senior Fellow and the author of The Fiscal Theory of Price Level (2023), discusses misconceptions around how the Federal Reserve goes about its business; why economic policy factors into the great-power competition with China; his fascination with Calvin Coolidge; plus why (in Joh…

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Generally Speaking: McMaster on Trump Foreign Policy and Technology Warfare | GoodFellows | Hoover Institution 43:34

3M ago43:34

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In a special mini version of GoodFellows (just one wise man, not the usual three), Lt. Gen. H.R. McMaster, the Hoover Institution’s Fouad and Michelle Ajami Senior Fellow and author of the soon-to-be-released At War with Ourselves: My Tour of Duty in the Trump White House, discusses a possible sea change in American foreign policy and the view from…

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We Win, They Lose, with Matthew Kroenig | GoodFellows: John H. Cochrane, Niall Ferguson, H.R. McMaster, and Bill Whalen | Hoover Institution 1:07:53

3M ago1:07:53

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Is a regional war across the Middle East about to erupt? And what to make of a Venezuelan regime that doesn’t honor election results? Matthew Kroenig, Vice President and Senior Director of the Atlantic Council’s Scowcroft Center for Strategy and Security and coauthor of the book We Win They Lose: Republican Foreign Policy and the New Cold War, join…

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EP#14 - Graphene-enhanced clothing – when fashion meets science 20:35

4M ago20:35

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Dr Aphrodite Tomou and Mark Daniels are joined this month by Victoria Mataczynski, Co-Founder of Nanoloom, a company using graphene to develop innovative yarn for the production of apparel. Together, they discuss the benefits of using this groundbreaking science to produce the next generation of clothing, from sustainability to wearable technology …

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Unburdened By What Has Been | GoodFellows: John H. Cochrane, Niall Ferguson, H.R. McMaster, and Bill Whalen | Hoover Institution 1:00:54

4M ago1:00:54

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An already surreal political year becomes all the more quizzical as former president Donald Trump literally dodges an assassin’s bullet soon before making a surprise pick of Ohio senator J. D. Vance as his running mate; followed by President Biden unexpectedly ending his reelection bid and Vice President Kamala Harris swiftly becoming the Democrati…

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The Senior Moment with Jonah Goldberg | GoodFellows: John H. Cochrane, Niall Ferguson, H.R. McMaster, and Bill Whalen | Hoover Institution 52:56

4M ago52:56

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The Dispatch’s Jonah Goldberg joins Good Fellows to discuss his differences with Niall Ferguson’s Soviet America essay, the Biden/Trump gerontocracy, and the European elections. Also, can someone help Niall choose a dog?توسط Hoover Institution

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EP#13 - Microfabrication – the new services available from Goodfellow 27:20

5M ago27:20

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In June 2024 Goodfellow acquired Potomac Photonics, bringing their micromanufacturing services, including small hole drilling, laser micro welding, micro CNC and much more, into the Goodfellow portfolio. The acquisition also gives Goodfellow a manufacturing base in the USA. In this episode, Mark and Aphrodite speak with Mike Adelstein to find out m…

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A GoodFellows Special: A Guide to Summer | GoodFellows: John H. Cochrane, Niall Ferguson, H.R. McMaster, and Bill Whalen | Hoover Institution 20:21

5M ago20:21

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How do a historian, an economist, and a geostrategist make the best use of their summers? In an abbreviated GoodFellows, Hoover senior fellows Niall Ferguson, John Cochrane, and H.R. McMaster reveal a few of their summertime preferences: favorite leisurely pursuits (land, air, and sea), their go-to foods and drinks, family gatherings (all three are…

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EP# 12 - Visiting the Advanced Materials Show 16:36

6M ago16:36

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Mark, Adam and Aphrodite visit the Advanced Materials Show at the NEC and discuss the things they’ve seen and the panels they’ve taken part in. Charlie Briggs, Technical Solutions Specialist joins the podcast to introduce himself, talk about his trip to AMS, and his love of Metal music. Send your scientific materials questions for the team to marke…

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The Axis of Chaos, with Matt Pottinger | GoodFellows: John H. Cochrane, Niall Ferguson, H.R. McMaster, and Bill Whalen | Hoover Institution 48:07

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A new “cold war” presents a familiar challenge for America: how to curb a rival great power’s ambitions. Matt Pottinger, a Hoover Institution visiting fellow and editor of the forthcoming book The Boiling Moat: Urgent Steps to Defend Taiwan, joins Hoover senior fellows Niall Ferguson, John Cochrane, and H.R. McMaster to discuss how best to discoura…

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The Counterfactual Show: Reimagining History, with Stephen Kotkin | GoodFellows: John H. Cochrane, Niall Ferguson, H.R. McMaster, and Bill Whalen | Hoover Institution 1:05:44

6M ago1:05:44

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Historians differ over the need to explore “counterfactuals”—the study of scenarios that never happened—and what they can tell us about historical causation. Stephen Kotkin, the Hoover Institution’s Kleinheinz Senior Fellow and noted historian of Russia, joins Hoover senior fellows Niall Ferguson and John Cochrane to discuss alternative historical …

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TikTok’s Ticking Clock: National Security Vs. Free Speech; Dr. Evil And James Bond | GoodFellows: John H. Cochrane, Niall Ferguson, H.R. McMaster, Amy Zegart, and Bill Whalen | Hoover Institution 57:41

7M ago57:41

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Did Israel’s failure to anticipate Hamas’s surprise attack in October 2023 stem from an overreliance on technical rather than human intelligence gathering? And is TikTok really a national security threat to America? Amy Zegart, the Hoover Institution’s Morris Arnold and Nona Jean Cox Senior Fellow and author of Spies, Lies, and Algorithms: The Hist…

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EP# 11 - Exciting changes ahead for Goodfellow… 26:00

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Dr Aphrodite Tomou and Mark Daniels are joined this month by Goodfellow’s CEO, Simon Kenney, and CMO, Claire Hartley, to discuss a big announcement for the business. As Goodfellow looks to set itself up for the future, the team talk through the company’s new brand, new story and, most importantly, the brand new website. More information: Hosts: Mar…

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America’s Immigration Puzzle, Iran Strikes (Out) – And 60 Is The New 40 | GoodFellows: John H. Cochrane, Niall Ferguson, H.R. McMaster, Reihan Salam, and Bill Whalen | Hoover Institution 58:07

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Nearly 40 years since the nation last saw comprehensive reform on the matter, the consensus is that America’s immigration system is sorely in need of updating to 21st-century realities. Reihan Salam, Manhattan Institute president and author of the book Melting Pot or Civil War?, joins Hoover senior fellows Niall Ferguson, John Cochrane, and H.R. Mc…

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NYT’s Bret Stephens on Israel, 4 Years of GoodFellows, and An Invite to JK Rowling | GoodFellows: John H. Cochrane, Niall Ferguson, H.R. McMaster, and Bill Whalen | Hoover Institution 52:48

8M ago52:48

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As the six-month anniversary of Hamas’s attack on Israel approaches, what to expect next in that struggle—and is the American president and Israeli prime minister’s working relationship beyond repair? New York Times columnist Bret Stephens joins Hoover senior fellows Niall Ferguson, John Cochrane, and H.R. McMaster to discuss the war’s possible exp…

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China v. Ukraine with Elbridge Colby; TikTok's Clock; Election Meddling Is Cool Now? | GoodFellows: Niall Ferguson, H.R. McMaster, and Bill Whalen | Hoover Institution 57:16

8M ago57:16

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Facing hot wars in Eastern Europe and the Middle East and a prolonged cold war in East Asia, how does America adapt its military strategy and resources—and in which direction? Elbridge Colby, former Defense Department assistant secretary and cofounder of the Marathon Initiative, which studies great-power competition, joins Hoover senior fellows Nia…

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Victor Davis Hanson On The State of the Union . . . and a Biden-Trump Rematch | GoodFellows: John H. Cochrane, Niall Ferguson, H.R. McMaster, and Bill Whalen | Hoover Institution 1:08:16

9M ago1:08:16

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Following Super Tuesday’s results, with the US presidential election still the better part of eight months away, a rematch between Joe Biden and Donald Trump is all but certain. Victor Davis Hanson, the Hoover Institution’s Martin and Illie Anderson Senior Fellow and author of the soon-to-be-released book The End of Everything: How Wars Descend int…

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EP# 10 - Beyond Lithium-Ion – how solid state batteries could power the future 21:32

9M ago21:32

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This month, Mark, Adam and Aphrodite are joined by Dr Jason Jackson to discuss the materials behind solid state batteries. From electric vehicles to mobile phones and on to medical devices like pacemakers, solid state batteries are set to change how we power the world. Find out how the materials Goodfellow provide could be used in the development o…

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Israel’s Options, Plus Navalny’s Legacy and Ranking the US Presidents, with Dan Senor | GoodFellows: John H. Cochrane, Niall Ferguson, H.R. McMaster, and Bill Whalen | Hoover Institution 55:25

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Why did Vladimir Putin call for an “inter-Palestinian meeting” in Moscow? And has Israel drawn a red line regarding a hostage release and an assault on the Gazan city of Rafah? Dan Senor, host of the Call Me Back podcast and author of two books on Israel, joins Hoover senior fellows Niall Ferguson (live from Jerusalem) and John Cochrane to discuss …

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End Games: America Strikes Back, Congress Strikes Out On Immigration | GoodFellows: John H. Cochrane, Niall Ferguson, H.R. McMaster, and Bill Whalen | Hoover Institution 53:27

9M ago53:27

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While the American reprisal against Iranian proxies across the Middle East is impressive in its harnessing of firepower, technology, and intelligence, does it advance the goals of deterrence and de-escalation? Hoover senior fellows Niall Ferguson, John Cochrane, and H.R. McMaster discuss the pros and cons of the current US strategy and their concer…

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EP#9 - The internet connected human brain 15:39

10M ago15:39

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Mark welcomes Aphrodite and Adam back from their Christmas breaks with a chat about mince pies and what everybody’s been up to in January. Aphrodite discusses her talk at the Royal Society of Chemists while Adam brings up the hot news topic of the moment: Neuralink’s announcement that they have put a microchip in a human brain. If you have any topi…

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Davos, World War III, Essential Books, and No Swearing | GoodFellows: John H. Cochrane, Niall Ferguson, H.R. McMaster, and Bill Whalen | Hoover Institution 53:57

10M ago53:57

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This installment of GoodFellows is devoted to audience questions—viewers and listeners putting Hoover senior fellows Niall Ferguson, John Cochrane, and H.R. McMaster through their intellectual paces. Among the topics broached: a possible re-embrace of Western heritage; the same pre–World War I mentality that dismissed the likelihood of a global con…

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Empire or Republic?: The Choice in ’24 | GoodFellows: John H. Cochrane, Niall Ferguson, H.R. McMaster, and Bill Whalen | Hoover Institution 59:40

10M ago59:40

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The new year begins with a continuation of three topics that figured prominently in 2023: escalating hostilities in the Middle East; a possible return to more traditional higher education after shake-ups at several elite American universities; plus the uncertainty of certain economic assumptions (in 2023, a much-prophesied recession that never mate…

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Ivy-League Anti-Semitism with Bari Weiss, Regarding Henry, and Santa Hats | GoodFellows: John H. Cochrane, Niall Ferguson, H.R. McMaster, and Bill Whalen | Hoover Institution 1:07:40

11M ago1:07:40

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Failing to unequivocally denounce students’ calls for Jewish genocide has cost one university president her job and raises questions as to whether the current levels of anti-Semitic vitriol and political activism inside America’s elite schools suggests parallels to Nazi Germany. Bari Weiss, founder of the Free Press and host of the Honestly podcast…

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EP#8 - The Outtakes Make For A Jolly Goodfellow 12:57

12M ago12:57

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Featuring: Mark Daniels, Dr Aphrodite Tomou, Adam Sells, James Taylor, Nicholas Pecheur and Lydia Collins From fluffing lines to wishing each other Happy Christmas in Greek, the team are ending the year with a festive episode highlighting some of the lighter moments behind the scenes when things went wrong recording this season of Innovation Discus…

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Known Unknowns, the Rolling Stones, and Karl Rove | GoodFellows: John H. Cochrane, Niall Ferguson, H.R. McMaster, and Bill Whalen | Hoover Institution 1:07:36

12M ago1:07:36

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As the US prepares for a presidential vote (Iowans caucusing in fewer than 50 days) and a temporary truce halts the Israel-Hamas conflict, long-term uncertainty seems the order of the day. Karl Rove, Wall Street Journal political columnist and the “architect” behind George W. Bush’s presidential runs, joins Hoover senior fellows Niall Ferguson. H.R…

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Life During Wartime: Israel’s Resolve; Can Ukraine Still Win? | GoodFellows: John Cochrane, Niall Ferguson, Lieutenant General Ben Hodges, H.R. McMaster, Russ Roberts, and Bill Whalen 1:06:12

1y ago1:06:12

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Two conflicts present two challenges: a Ukrainian counteroffensive turned stalemate; and Israel’s survival as it confronts Hamas (and possibly Hezbollah and Iran). Russ Roberts, Hoover’s John and Jean De Nault Research Fellow and president of Jerusalem’s Shalem College, joins Hoover senior fellows Niall Ferguson. H.R. McMaster, and John Cochrane to…

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EP#7 - Additive materials in 3D printing and how big is the sun? 22:26

1y ago22:26

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Mark, Aphrodite and Adam get together once more to discuss the news this month in materials science, which this time includes additive materials in 3D printed rocket nozzles for use in space travel. Mark continues to be the one who doesn’t understand what’s being said, Adam continues to not get Mark’s humour and Aphrodite, as always, provides the a…

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A Bronx Tale: Ian Rowe on the Fight for Charter Schools | GoodFellows: John H. Cochrane, Niall Ferguson, Bill Whalen, and Ian Rowe | Hoover Institution 1:02:34

1y ago1:02:34

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Ian Rowe, an American Enterprise Institute senior fellow and cofounder of the Bronx-based Vertex Partnership Academies, joins Hoover senior fellows Niall Ferguson and John Cochrane to discuss the future of public education and charter schools’ role in the quest for better outcomes. What lessons does a virtues-based public charter high school in New…

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Understanding the New World (Dis)Order, with Stephen Kotkin | GoodFellows: John H. Cochrane, Niall Ferguson, and Bill Whalen | Hoover Institution 58:08

1y ago58:08

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As Israel and Ukraine struggle for survival, a newer “axis of ill will”—formed by Russia, China and Iran—sows discord around the globe. Stephen Kotkin, the Hoover Institution’s Kleinheinz Senior Fellow and a vaunted historian, joins Hoover senior fellows Niall Ferguson and John Cochrane to assess options abroad and parallels to the past (are we rel…

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The War in Israel and the War at Home | GoodFellows: John H. Cochrane, Niall Ferguson, H.R. McMaster, and Bill Whalen | Hoover Institution 56:43

1y ago56:43

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Recorded live at the Hoover Institution’s fall retreat: Hoover senior fellows Niall Ferguson, H.R. McMaster, and John Cochrane discuss unfolding events in the Middle East—Israel’s response, failures in intelligence gathering, plus America’s strategic choices vis-à-vis a complicit Iran. The trio then reflects on what an anti-Israeli backlash on the …

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EP#6 - Origami trains and ant-scaling Nerf guns! 18:10

1y ago18:10

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Mark, Adam and Aphrodite talk Goodfellow’s Channel Partner program, sustainable materials, and the fascinating world of folding sheet metal to make trains stronger and miniaturising children’s toys. More information: Hosts: Mark Daniels and Dr Aphrodite Tomou. Goodfellow Cambridge Ltd: www.goodfellow.com Ask the panel a question: marketing@goodfell…

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Supreme Court, United Nations—What Next for Free Speech, the Free World? | GoodFellows: John H. Cochrane, Niall Ferguson, Eugene Volokh, and Bill Whalen | Hoover Institution 1:08:01

1y ago1:08:01

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The US Supreme Court seems headed for a showdown with social media platforms over content and censorship; the United Nations’ 78th General Assembly underscores that body’s inability to curb totalitarian aggression. Eugene Volokh, a soon-to-be Hoover Institution senior fellow and a First Amendment law professor at UCLA, joins Hoover senior fellows N…

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EP#5 - Iron and Nickel makes the Earth turn 21:48

1y ago21:48

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Mark and Aphrodite answer a listener’s question about the Earth’s core that leads to a conversation around the properties of nickel and iron and the products and services Goodfellow offer around these materials. Some conversation around summer holidays may also happen… More information: Hosts: Mark Daniels and Dr Aphrodite Tomou. Goodfellow Cambrid…

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Doomsayers, a Doomed China, and . . . President McMaster? | GoodFellows: John Cochrane, Niall Ferguson, H.R. McMaster, and Bill Whalen | Hoover Institution 1:04:57

1y ago1:04:57

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In a special “mailbag” episode, Hoover senior fellows Niall Ferguson, John Cochrane, and H.R. McMaster answer viewers’ questions, ranging from global geopolitics to American domestic affairs. Among the topics: Is China headed for an economic or military tipping point? What do the commentariat make of doomsaying Cassandras? And would two of the Good…

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Tainted “Meat and Potatoes”— Andrew McCarthy on Political Trials, Public Tribulations | GoodFellows: John Cochrane, Niall Ferguson, Andrew McCarthy, H.R. McMaster, and Bill Whalen | Hoover Institution 51:36

1y ago51:36

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Former president Donald Trump faces at least four criminal trials that could overshadow the Republicans’ presidential nominating process—and maybe fatally wound him in a general election—while a legal cloud hangs over President Biden due to an ongoing investigation into his son’s business affairs. Andrew McCarthy, a National Review contributing edi…

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AI And A-Bombs: Is Everything A-Okay? | GoodFellows: John Cochrane, Niall Ferguson, H. R. McMaster, Fei-Fei Li, H.R. McMaster, Bill Whalen | Hoover Institution 1:05:57

1+ y ago1:05:57

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On the 78th anniversary of the only wartime use of nuclear weapons, is the human race at another moral crossroads, fearing what artificial intelligence (AI) breakthroughs might unleash? Fei-Fei Li, co-director of Stanford University’s Institute for Human-Centered AI, joins Hoover senior fellows Niall Ferguson, John Cochrane, and H.R. McMaster to di…

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EP#4 - The Nuts and Bolts of the business 21:41

1+ y ago21:41

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Goodfellow’s Account Manager James Taylor stands in for Nic Pecheur in this episode to talk about a little known range in the Goodfellow portfolio: nuts and bolts. Goodfellow supply in all shapes, sizes and materials, and the conversation turns culinary when ‘cheeseheads’ are brought up. Meanwhile, Aphrodite muses that, in the future, behind every …

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The Recession That Didn’t Bark | GoodFellows: John Cochrane, Niall Ferguson, H. R. McMaster | Hoover Institution 54:21

1+ y ago54:21

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This week, the self-moderating GoodFellows (Bill Whalen is on vacation) ponder why the much predicted recession hasn’t materialized—at least not yet. The Fellows also discuss the national security implications of a recession and why some economists may be a little too optimistic about economic conditions in the near future. Then, we check back in o…

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