Finding Space for Compassion with Richard McCann and Jo Berry

The Connected Leadership Podcast

In this episode, Andy Lopata speaks with two incredible guests Jo Berry and Richard McCann about their experiences of trauma and forgiveness. Both lost a parent to violent acts - McCann's mother was murdered by serial killer Peter Sutcliffe in 1975, and Berry's father was killed in the IRA's bombing of the Conservative Party Conference in Brighton in 1984. Despite the immense tragedy, both found ways to come to terms with their loss and seek positive outcomes. McCann became a motivational speaker, while Berry started the charity Building Bridges For Peace.

McCann shares his journey of forgiveness, beginning with forgiving his abusive father and eventually letting go of his anger towards Sutcliffe. He discusses how he tried to understand Sutcliffe as a human being, although his attempts to meet with him were rejected. However, McCann highlights that compassion and forgiveness can lead to healing and positive change, despite this painful journey. Berry shared how she made the decision to meet with the man responsible for her father's death. She stresses the importance of listening to one's gut instinct and taking responsibility for one's own healing by choosing a way that does not involve the person who hurt you. McCann & Berry also share personal experiences of forgiveness and healing, highlighting the power of forgiveness in bringing personal growth and positive change. They reflect on how their experiences have impacted their ability to forgive people for everyday issues, acknowledging that it's a journey with ups and downs. They also emphasise the importance of owning up to our mistakes, repairing harm, and creating stronger connections

McCann shared how writing a book about his life without consulting his wider family impacted his relationships. Berry and McCann stress the importance of having supportive friends and family who will be there for you even if they disagree with the choices you make. They share how they have dealt with family members who do not support their choices and have focused on the positive relationships in their lives.

This episode underscores the need for individuals to take control of their own mental wellbeing and not blame others for how they feel. Join us in this inspiring conversation and gain valuable insights into the power of forgiveness, understanding, and compassion in personal and professional growth.

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