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New York 2140, Episode 4: Expensive or Priceless? Sticky or Epiphenomenal? Law or Dispossession? The Good or Ideology?
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In this episode (recorded a few days after the attempted assassination of Donald Trump, hence the opening discussion), we talk about Part Four of New York 2140, "Expensive or Priceless?" Our (long) wide-ranging conversation takes a rather critical view of the novel, or at least this part of it. We're trying to suss out what the rest of the world outside New York looks like, and what the status of the "police state" is. To do this we start to talk about the book's concept of citizenship, which we'll have to continue in future episodes. We also try to think about what is "sticky" in this novel as regards our own world (the question of whether this is an allegory of the present or a vision of the future). While decarbonization has happened and the fossil fuel industry evidently demolished, a lot of the political and social structures and institutions of our present reality (which themselves are integral to the fossil fuel economy as well as capitalism writ large) appear relatively unchanged in 2140--the law, the Federal Reserve, the NYPD, the United States of America. However, we're also interested in other sticky social forms that New York 2140 seems to wrestle with, if not criticize: the couple form, the romance plot, the bourgeois family. And as ever, Robinson's novel also tends to valorize literature itself as not merely a utopian space, but a utopian action: after all, is not even the law itself a (flawed) attempt to write the world that we want to see into existence? Or is it?
Thanks for listening! Sorry for the long delay between episodes. We'll be out with a new episode shortly, but then alas there will likely be another long delay of at least a couple of weeks. Good thing we have the most patient fanbase in all of podcasting!
Email us at maroonedonmarspodcast@gmail.com
Follow us on Twitter @podcastonmars
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Music by Spirit of Space
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Manage episode 432468708 series 2418654
In this episode (recorded a few days after the attempted assassination of Donald Trump, hence the opening discussion), we talk about Part Four of New York 2140, "Expensive or Priceless?" Our (long) wide-ranging conversation takes a rather critical view of the novel, or at least this part of it. We're trying to suss out what the rest of the world outside New York looks like, and what the status of the "police state" is. To do this we start to talk about the book's concept of citizenship, which we'll have to continue in future episodes. We also try to think about what is "sticky" in this novel as regards our own world (the question of whether this is an allegory of the present or a vision of the future). While decarbonization has happened and the fossil fuel industry evidently demolished, a lot of the political and social structures and institutions of our present reality (which themselves are integral to the fossil fuel economy as well as capitalism writ large) appear relatively unchanged in 2140--the law, the Federal Reserve, the NYPD, the United States of America. However, we're also interested in other sticky social forms that New York 2140 seems to wrestle with, if not criticize: the couple form, the romance plot, the bourgeois family. And as ever, Robinson's novel also tends to valorize literature itself as not merely a utopian space, but a utopian action: after all, is not even the law itself a (flawed) attempt to write the world that we want to see into existence? Or is it?
Thanks for listening! Sorry for the long delay between episodes. We'll be out with a new episode shortly, but then alas there will likely be another long delay of at least a couple of weeks. Good thing we have the most patient fanbase in all of podcasting!
Email us at maroonedonmarspodcast@gmail.com
Follow us on Twitter @podcastonmars
Follow us on Blusky @podcastonmars.bsky.social
Rate and review us on iTunes, Spotify, or wherever you listen to your podcasts!
Music by Spirit of Space
139 قسمت
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