Ep 133: James Holland on World War II in Italy, 1943

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James Holland, author of The Savage Storm: The Battle for Italy 1943 and host of the We Have Ways of Making You Talk podcast, joins the show to talk about the Allied campaign in Italy.

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Times

• 02:08 Introduction

• 04:23 “No greater moment of human drama…”

• 11:08 Why go into Italy at all?

• 18:24 Mission to Rome

• 29:33 Baytown and Avalanche

• 32:10 Salerno

• 36:25 rethinking Mark Clark

• 40:50 Very hard fighting

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