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So do we like Generics or not?
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So, do we like generics or not? Some people feared they’d be the end of the language. Others were very hopeful, and had clear use cases, and were thrilled about the feature coming to the language. It was also often touted as the reason a lot of people didn’t adopt Go. So what do we think now? Mat and Kris are joined by Roger Peppe and Bryan Boreham to discuss the state of Generics in Go.
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Featuring:
- Roger Peppe – GitHub, X
- Bryan Boreham – X
- Mat Ryer – Website, GitHub, LinkedIn, X
- Kris Brandow – GitHub, X
Show Notes:
- New slices package
- Go 1.21 release notes
- Roger’s talk on unconstrained generics
- Roger’s proposal on type assertions
- Roger’s generics mini testing framework
- Mat’s mini testing framework
- Dishwasher video
- Dishwasher video v2
Something missing or broken? PRs welcome!
فصل ها
1. It's Go Time! (00:00:00)
2. Roger Peppe (00:00:45)
3. Bryan Boreham (00:02:22)
4. Overview of generics (00:02:57)
5. [Square brackets] (00:06:25)
6. Roger's generic use (00:08:09)
7. Constraints (00:19:37)
8. Proposal for type switching (00:26:45)
9. The error interface (00:30:01)
10. Roger's Qt project (00:30:51)
11. How do generics make you feel? (00:35:45)
12. Go 1.21 (00:43:56)
13. Maps package (00:47:18)
14. Unpopular opinions (00:49:41)
15. Mat's unpop (00:50:01)
16. Roger's unpop (00:50:45)
17. Bryan's unpop (00:59:25)
18. Kris' unpop (01:03:55)
19. Mat's 2nd unpop (01:11:04)
20. When Mat called a guy homeless (01:12:01)
21. Universal jokes (01:22:11)
22. Outro (01:26:59)
347 قسمت
Manage episode 372276958 series 3341962
So, do we like generics or not? Some people feared they’d be the end of the language. Others were very hopeful, and had clear use cases, and were thrilled about the feature coming to the language. It was also often touted as the reason a lot of people didn’t adopt Go. So what do we think now? Mat and Kris are joined by Roger Peppe and Bryan Boreham to discuss the state of Generics in Go.
Changelog++ members save 1 minute on this episode because they made the ads disappear. Join today!
Sponsors:
- Fastly – Our bandwidth partner. Fastly powers fast, secure, and scalable digital experiences. Move beyond your content delivery network to their powerful edge cloud platform. Learn more at fastly.com
- Fly.io – The home of Changelog.com — Deploy your apps and databases close to your users. In minutes you can run your Ruby, Go, Node, Deno, Python, or Elixir app (and databases!) all over the world. No ops required. Learn more at fly.io/changelog and check out the speedrun in their docs.
- Typesense – Lightning fast, globally distributed Search-as-a-Service that runs in memory. You literally can’t get any faster!
Featuring:
- Roger Peppe – GitHub, X
- Bryan Boreham – X
- Mat Ryer – Website, GitHub, LinkedIn, X
- Kris Brandow – GitHub, X
Show Notes:
- New slices package
- Go 1.21 release notes
- Roger’s talk on unconstrained generics
- Roger’s proposal on type assertions
- Roger’s generics mini testing framework
- Mat’s mini testing framework
- Dishwasher video
- Dishwasher video v2
Something missing or broken? PRs welcome!
فصل ها
1. It's Go Time! (00:00:00)
2. Roger Peppe (00:00:45)
3. Bryan Boreham (00:02:22)
4. Overview of generics (00:02:57)
5. [Square brackets] (00:06:25)
6. Roger's generic use (00:08:09)
7. Constraints (00:19:37)
8. Proposal for type switching (00:26:45)
9. The error interface (00:30:01)
10. Roger's Qt project (00:30:51)
11. How do generics make you feel? (00:35:45)
12. Go 1.21 (00:43:56)
13. Maps package (00:47:18)
14. Unpopular opinions (00:49:41)
15. Mat's unpop (00:50:01)
16. Roger's unpop (00:50:45)
17. Bryan's unpop (00:59:25)
18. Kris' unpop (01:03:55)
19. Mat's 2nd unpop (01:11:04)
20. When Mat called a guy homeless (01:12:01)
21. Universal jokes (01:22:11)
22. Outro (01:26:59)
347 قسمت
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1 Russ Cox on passing the torch 1:09:27

1 How I lost my (old) job to AI 1:18:24

1 The community of gophers 1:09:39

1 ⚡ Lightning Talk life ⚡ 1:12:23

1 OpenAPI & API design 1:14:12

1 What's new in Go 1.23 1:06:55

1 How Mat writes HTTP services in Go 1:11:07

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1 How things get done on the Go Team 1:03:12

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1 Foundations of Go performance 1:00:06

1 What's new in Go 1.22 1:03:56


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1 What's new in Go's cryptography libraries: Part 2 1:11:38

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1 Experiences from GopherCon 2023 1:16:34


1 Go templating using Templ 1:05:37


1 What's new in Go 1.21 1:04:54

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1 Building world-class developer experiences 1:20:20

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