Alexander Lichter: The State of Modern Web Tooling

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Links

- Codecrafters (sponsor): https://tej.as

- Alex: https://www.lichter.io/

- Alex on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@TheAlexLichter

- Alex on X: https://x.com/TheAlexLichter

- VoidZero: https://voidzero.dev/

- Vite Plus: https://i.redd.it/l0d9yemja1pe1.jpeg

- Talk including VitePlus: https://youtube.com/watch?v=5mn3EpWCcJs&t=16353s

- Rolldown Vite: https://vite.dev/rolldown

- Oxc Custom Lint Plugins discussion: https://github.com/oxc-project/oxc/discussions/10342#discussioncomment-12828320

Previous Episode

- Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/alexander-lichter-how-to-get-the-most-out-of-vue-js-and-nuxt/id1731855333?i=1000678873395

- Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/episode/5NdqcW2GnQ57IetEKD1dua

- YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y32Ko_CkbAI

Summary

In this conversation, Alexander Lichter and I discuss the evolution of JavaScript tooling, focusing on the significance of VoidZero and Vite. We explore the need for a unified JavaScript toolchain, the challenges faced by existing tools like Webpack, and the importance of user experience in development tools. We also touch on the lessons learned from the Rome project and the future of VoidZero, including its funding and vision for open-source development.

Chapters

00:00:00 Alex Lichter

00:06:33 The Evolution of JavaScript Tooling

00:09:34 Understanding VoidZero and Its Purpose

00:12:15 The Need for a Unified JavaScript Toolchain

00:15:16 Vite: The Cornerstone of Modern Development

00:18:21 Comparing Vite and Webpack

00:21:17 User Experience in Development Tools

00:24:34 Lessons from Rome and Biome

00:27:14 Funding and Future of VoidZero

00:35:03 Introduction to Rolldown and Its Origins

00:36:00 Understanding Rolldown's Purpose and Features

00:39:34 The Transition from Rollup to Rolldown

00:42:46 The Need for Speed in Development

00:46:31 The Role of Plugins in Rolldown

00:49:53 OxLint: A Game Changer for Linting

00:57:33 Exploring the OxC Toolkit

00:59:48 Clarifying Relationships in the Toolchain

01:03:43 Type Checking Strategies and Future Directions

01:05:21 Understanding Isolated Declarations in TypeScript

01:06:20 Performance Comparison: OXC vs SWC

01:09:11 The Role of Code Formatting in Development

01:12:18 Extensibility and Plugin Architecture of OXC

01:15:21 Dev Server Performance and Cold Starts

01:21:35 The Role of Developer Relations at VoidZero

01:27:24 Encouraging Contributions from the Community

01:31:19 Collaboration Between Different Developer Communities

01:33:21 Future Prospects and Final Thoughts

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