Bringing CISA's Secure by Design Principles to OT Systems - Matthew Rogers - ASW #334

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Simple Patterns for Complex Secure Code Reviews - Louis Nyffenegger - ASW #337 38:26

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Manual secure code reviews can be tedious and time intensive if you're just going through checklists. There's plenty of room for linters and compilers and all the grep-like tools to find flaws. Louis Nyffenegger describes the steps of a successful code review process. It's a process that starts with understanding code, which can even benefit from an LLM assistant, and then applies that understanding to a search for developer patterns that lead to common mistakes like mishandling data, not enforcing a control flow, or not defending against unexpected application states. He explains how finding those kinds of more impactful bugs are rewarding for the reviewer and valuable to the code owner. It involves reading a lot of code, but Louis offers tips on how to keep notes, keep an app's context in mind, and keep code secure. Segment Resources: https://pentesterlab.com/live-training/ https://pentesterlab.com/appsecschool https://deepwiki.com https://daniel.haxx.se/blog/2025/05/29/decomplexification/ Visit https://www.securityweekly.com/asw for all the latest episodes! Show Notes: https://securityweekly.com/asw-337…

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How Fuzzing Barcodes Raises the Bar for Secure Code - Artur Cygan - ASW #336 1:01:18

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Fuzzing has been one of the most successful ways to improve software quality. And it demonstrates how improving software quality improves security. Artur Cygan shares his experience in building and applying fuzzers to barcode scanners, smart contracts, and just about any code you can imagine. We go through the useful relationship between unit tests and fuzzing coverage, nudging fuzzers into deeper code paths, and how LLMs can help guide a fuzzer into using better inputs for its testing. Resources https://blog.trailofbits.com/2024/10/31/fuzzing-between-the-lines-in-popular-barcode-software/ https://github.com/crytic/echidna https://github.com/crytic/medusa https://lcamtuf.blogspot.com/2014/11/pulling-jpegs-out-of-thin-air.html Visit https://www.securityweekly.com/asw for all the latest episodes! Show Notes: https://securityweekly.com/asw-336…

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Threat Modeling With Good Questions and Without Checklists - Farshad Abasi - ASW #335 1:08:00

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What makes a threat modeling process effective? Do you need a long list of threat actors? Do you need a long list of terms? What about a short list like STRIDE? Has an effective process ever come out of a list? Farshad Abasi joins our discussion as we explain why the answer to most of those questions is No and describe the kinds of approaches that are more conducive to useful threat models. Resources: https://www.eurekadevsecops.com/agile-devops-and-the-threat-modeling-disconnect-bridging-the-gap-with-developer-insights/ https://www.threatmodelingmanifesto.org https://kellyshortridge.com/blog/posts/security-decision-trees-with-graphviz/ In the news, learning from outage postmortems, an EchoLeak image speaks a 1,000 words from Microsoft 365 Copilot, TokenBreak attack targets tokenizing techniques, Google's layered strategy against prompt injection looks like a lot like defending against XSS, learning about code security from CodeAuditor CTF, and more! Visit https://www.securityweekly.com/asw for all the latest episodes! Show Notes: https://securityweekly.com/asw-335…

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Bringing CISA's Secure by Design Principles to OT Systems - Matthew Rogers - ASW #334 1:09:09

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CISA has been championing Secure by Design principles. Many of the principles are universal, like adopting MFA and having opinionated defaults that reduce the need for hardening guides. Matthew Rogers talks about how the approach to Secure by Design has to be tailored for Operational Technology (OT) systems. These systems have strict requirements on safety and many of them rely on protocols that are four (or more!) decades old. He explains how the considerations in this space go far beyond just memory safety concerns. Segment Resources: https://www.cisa.gov/sites/default/files/2025-01/joint-guide-secure-by-demand-priority-considerations-for-ot-owners-and-operators-508c_0.pdf https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vHSXu1P4ZTo Visit https://www.securityweekly.com/asw for all the latest episodes! Show Notes: https://securityweekly.com/asw-334…

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AIs, MCPs, and the Acutal Work that LLMs Are Generating - ASW #333 39:06

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The recent popularity of MCPs is surpassed only by the recent examples deficiencies of their secure design. The most obvious challenge is how MCPs, and many more general LLM use cases, have erased two decades of security principles behind separating code and data. We take a look at how developers are using LLMs to generate code and continue our search for where LLMs are providing value to appsec. We also consider what indicators we'd look for as signs of success. For example, are LLMs driving useful commits to overburdened open source developers? Are LLMs climbing the ranks of bug bounty platforms? In the news, more examples of prompt injection techniques against LLM features in GitLab and GitHub, the value (and tradeoffs) in rewriting code, secure design lessons from a history of iOS exploitation, checking for all the ways to root, and NIST's approach to (maybe) measuring likely exploited vulns. Visit https://www.securityweekly.com/asw for all the latest episodes! Show Notes: https://securityweekly.com/asw-333…

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AI in AppSec: Agentic Tools, Vibe Coding Risks & Securing Non-Human Identities - Mo Aboul-Magd, Shahar Man, Brian Fox, Mark Lambert - ASW #332 1:04:35

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ArmorCode unveils Anya—the first agentic AI virtual security champion designed specifically for AppSec and product security teams. Anya brings together conversation and context to help AppSec, developers and security teams cut through the noise, prioritize risks, and make faster, smarter decisions across code, cloud, and infrastructure. Built into the ArmorCode ASPM Platform and backed by 25B findings, 285+ integrations, natural language intelligence, and role-aware insights, Anya turns complexity into clarity, helping teams scale securely and close the security skills gap. Anya is now generally available and included as part of the ArmorCode ASPM Platform. Visit https://securityweekly.com/armorcodersac to request a demo! As 'vibe coding", the practice of using AI tools with specialized coding LLMs to develop software, is making waves, what are the implications for security teams? How can this new way of developing applications be made secure? Or have the horses already left the stable? Segment Resources: https://www.backslash.security/press-releases/backslash-security-reveals-in-new-research-that-gpt-4-1-other-popular-llms-generate-insecure-code-unless-explicitly-prompted https://www.backslash.security/blog/vibe-securing-4-1-pillars-of-appsec-for-vibe-coding This segment is sponsored by Backslash. Visit https://securityweekly.com/backslashrsac to learn more about them! The rise of AI has largely mirrored the early days of open source software. With rapid adoption amongst developers who are trying to do more with less time, unmanaged open source AI presents serious risks to organizations. Brian Fox, CTO & Co-founder of Sonatype, will dive into the risks associated with open source AI and best practices to secure it. Segment Resources: https://www.sonatype.com/solutions/open-source-ai https://www.sonatype.com/blog/beyond-open-vs.-closed-understanding-the-spectrum-of-ai-transparency https://www.sonatype.com/resources/whitepapers/modern-development-in-ai-era This segment is sponsored by Sonatype. Visit https://securityweekly.com/sonatypersac to learn more about Sonatype's AI SCA solutions! The surge in AI agents is creating a vast new cyber attack surface with Non-Human Identities (NHIs) becoming a prime target. This segment will explore how SandboxAQ's AQtive Guard Discover platform addresses this challenge by providing real-time vulnerability detection and mitigation for NHIs and cryptographic assets. We'll discuss the platform's AI-driven approach to inventory, threat detection, and automated remediation, and its crucial role in helping enterprises secure their AI-driven future. To take control of your NHI security and proactively address the escalating threats posed by AI agents, visit https://securityweekly.com/sandboxaqrsac to schedule an early deployment and risk assessment. Visit https://www.securityweekly.com/asw for all the latest episodes! Show Notes: https://securityweekly.com/asw-332…

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Appsec News & Interviews from RSAC on Identity and AI - Rami Saas, Charlotte Wylie - ASW #331 1:01:48

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In the news, Coinbase deals with bribes and insider threat, the NCSC notes the cross-cutting problem of incentivizing secure design, we cover some research that notes the multitude of definitions for secure design, and discuss the new Cybersecurity Skills Framework from the OpenSSF and Linux Foundation. Then we share two more sponsored interviews from this year's RSAC Conference. With more types of identities, machines, and agents trying to access increasingly critical data and resources, across larger numbers of devices, organizations will be faced with managing this added complexity and identity sprawl. Now more than ever, organizations need to make sure security is not an afterthought, implementing comprehensive solutions for securing, managing, and governing both non-human and human identities across ecosystems at scale. This segment is sponsored by Okta. Visit https://securityweekly.com/oktarsac to learn more about them! At Mend.io, we believe that securing AI-powered applications requires more than just scanning for vulnerabilities in AI-generated code—it demands a comprehensive, enterprise-level strategy. While many AppSec vendors offer limited, point-in-time solutions focused solely on AI code, Mend.io takes a broader and more integrated approach. Our platform is designed to secure not just the code, but the full spectrum of AI components embedded within modern applications. By leveraging existing risk management strategies, processes, and tools, we uncover the unique risks that AI introduces—without forcing organizations to reinvent their workflows. Mend.io’s solution ensures that AI security is embedded into the software development lifecycle, enabling teams to assess and mitigate risks proactively and at scale. Unlike isolated AI security startups, Mend.io delivers a single, unified platform that secures an organization’s entire codebase—including its AI-driven elements. This approach maximizes efficiency, minimizes disruption, and empowers enterprises to embrace AI innovation with confidence and control. This segment is sponsored by Mend.io. Visit https://securityweekly.com/mendrsac to book a live demo! Visit https://www.securityweekly.com/asw for all the latest episodes! Show Notes: https://securityweekly.com/asw-331…

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Secure Code Reviews, LLM Coding Assistants, and Trusting Code - Rey Bango, Karim Toubba, Gal Elbaz - ASW #330 1:09:38

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Developers are relying on LLMs as coding assistants, so where are the LLM assistants for appsec? The principles behind secure code reviews don't really change based on who write the code, whether human or AI. But more code means more reasons for appsec to scale its practices and figure out how to establish trust in code, packages, and designs. Rey Bango shares his experience with secure code reviews and where developer education fits in among the adoption of LLMs. As businesses rapidly embrace SaaS and AI-powered applications at an unprecedented rate, many small-to-medium sized businesses (SMBs) struggle to keep up due to complex tech stacks and limited visibility into the skyrocketing app sprawl. These modern challenges demand a smarter, more streamlined approach to identity and access management. Learn how LastPass is reimagining access control through “Secure Access Experiences” - starting with the introduction of SaaS Monitoring capabilities designed to bring clarity to even the most chaotic environments. Secure Access Experiences - https://www.lastpass.com/solutions/secure-access This segment is sponsored by LastPass. Visit https://securityweekly.com/lastpassrsac to learn more about them! Cloud Application Detection and Response (CADR) has burst onto the scene as one of the hottest categories in security, with numerous vendors touting a variety of capabilities and making promises on how bringing detection and response to the application-level will be a game changer. In this segment, Gal Elbaz, co-founder and CTO of Oligo Security, will dive into what CADR is, who it helps, and what the future will look like for this game changing technology. Segment Resources - https://www.oligo.security/company/whyoligo To see Oligo in action, please visit https://securityweekly.com/oligorsac Visit https://www.securityweekly.com/asw for all the latest episodes! Show Notes: https://securityweekly.com/asw-330…

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AI Era, New Risks: How Data-Centric Security Reduces Emerging AppSec Threats - Vishal Gupta, Idan Plotnik - ASW #329 1:03:03

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We catch up on news after a week of BSidesSF and RSAC Conference. Unsurprisingly, AI in all its flavors, from agentic to gen, was inescapable. But perhaps more surprising (and more unfortunate) is how much the adoption of LLMs has increased the attack surface within orgs. The news is heavy on security issues from MCPs and a novel alignment bypass against LLMs. Not everything is genAI as we cover some secure design topics from the Airborne attack against Apple's AirPlay to more calls for companies to show how they're embracing secure design principles and practices. Apiiro CEO & Co-Founder, Idan Plotnik discusses the AI problem in AppSec. This segment is sponsored by Apiiro. Visit https://securityweekly.com/apiirorsac to learn more about them! Gen AI is being adopted faster than company’s policy and data security can keep up, and as LLM’s become more integrated into company systems and uses leverage more AI enabled applications, they essentially become unintentional data exfiltration points. These tools do not differentiate between what data is sensitive and proprietary and what is not. This interview will examine how the rapid adoption of Gen AI is putting sensitive company data at risk, and the data security considerations and policies organizations should implement before, if, and when their employees may seek to adopt a Gen AI tools to leverage some of their undeniable workplace benefits. Customer case studies: https://www.seclore.com/resources/customer-case-studies/ Seclore Blog: https://www.seclore.com/blog/ This segment is sponsored by Seclore. Visit https://securityweekly.com/seclorersac to learn more about them! Visit https://www.securityweekly.com/asw for all the latest episodes! Show Notes: https://securityweekly.com/asw-329…

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Secure Designs, UX Dragons, Vuln Dungeons - Jack Cable - ASW #328 44:08

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In this live recording from BSidesSF we explore the factors that influence a secure design, talk about how to avoid the bite of UX dragons, and why designs should put classes of vulns into dungeons. But we can't threat model a secure design forever and we can't oversimplify guidance for a design to be "more secure". Kalyani Pawar and Jack Cable join the discussion to provide advice on evaluating secure designs through examples of strong and weak designs we've seen over the years. We highlight the importance of designing systems to serve users and consider what it means to have a secure design with a poor UX. As we talk about the strategy and tactics of secure design, we share why framing this as a challenge in preventing dangerous errors can help devs make practical engineering decisions that improve appsec for everyone. Resources https://owasp.org/Top10/A04 2021-Insecure Design/ https://dl.acm.org/doi/10.5555/1251421.1251435 https://www.threatmodelingmanifesto.org https://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc9700.html https://www.cisa.gov/resources-tools/resources/secure-by-design Visit https://www.securityweekly.com/asw for all the latest episodes! Show Notes: https://securityweekly.com/asw-328…

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Managing Secrets - Vlad Matsiiako - ASW #327 1:03:03

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Secrets end up everywhere, from dev systems to CI/CD pipelines to services, certificates, and cloud environments. Vlad Matsiiako shares some of the tactics that make managing secrets more secure as we discuss the distinctions between secure architectures, good policies, and developer friendly tools. We've thankfully moved on from forced 90-day user password rotations, but that doesn't mean there isn't a place for rotating secrets. It means that the tooling and processes for ephemeral secrets should be based on secure, efficient mechanisms rather than putting all the burden on users. And it also means that managing secrets shouldn't become an unmanaged risk with new attack surfaces or new points of failure. Segment Resources: https://infisical.com/blog/solving-secret-zero-problem https://infisical.com/blog/gitops-secrets-management Visit https://www.securityweekly.com/asw for all the latest episodes! Show Notes: https://securityweekly.com/asw-327…

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More WAFs in Blocking Mode and More Security Headaches from LLMs - Sandy Carielli, Janet Worthington - ASW #326 1:14:45

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The breaches will continue until appsec improves. Janet Worthington and Sandy Carielli share their latest research on breaches from 2024, WAFs in 2025, and where secure by design fits into all this. WAFs are delivering value in a way that orgs are relying on them more for bot management and fraud detection. But adopting phishing-resistant authentication solutions like passkeys and deploying WAFs still seem peripheral to secure by design principles. We discuss what's necessary for establishing a secure environment and why so many orgs still look to tools. And with LLMs writing so much code, we continue to look for ways LLMs can help appsec in addition to all the ways LLMs keep recreating appsec problems. Resources https://www.forrester.com/blogs/breaches-and-lawsuits-and-fines-oh-my-what-we-learned-the-hard-way-from-2024/ https://www.forrester.com/blogs/wafs-are-now-the-center-of-application-protection-suites/ https://www.forrester.com/blogs/are-you-making-these-devsecops-mistakes-the-four-phases-you-need-to-know-before-your-code-becomes-your-vulnerability/ In the news, crates.io logging mistake shows the errors of missing redactions, LLMs give us slopsquatting as a variation on typosquatting, CaMeL kicks sand on prompt injection attacks, using NTLM flaws as lessons for authentication designs, tradeoffs between containers and WebAssembly, research gaps in the world of Programmable Logic Controllers, and more! Visit https://www.securityweekly.com/asw for all the latest episodes! Show Notes: https://securityweekly.com/asw-326…

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In Search of Secure Design - ASW #325 1:07:36

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We have a top ten list entry for Insecure Design, pledges to CISA's Secure by Design principles, and tons of CVEs that fall into familiar categories of flaws. But what does it mean to have a secure design and how do we get there? There are plenty of secure practices that orgs should implement are supply chains, authentication, and the SDLC. Those practices address important areas of risk, but only indirectly influence a secure design. We look at tactics from coding styles to design councils as we search for guidance that makes software more secure. Segment resources https://owasp.org/Top10/A04 2021-Insecure Design/ https://www.cisa.gov/securebydesign/pledge https://www.cisa.gov/securebydesign https://kccnceu2025.sched.com/event/1xBJR/keynote-rust-in-the-linux-kernel-a-new-era-for-cloud-native-performance-and-security-greg-kroah-hartman-linux-kernel-maintainer-fellow-the-linux-foundation https://newsletter.pragmaticengineer.com/p/how-linux-is-built-with-greg-kroah https://daniel.haxx.se/blog/2025/04/07/writing-c-for-curl/ Visit https://www.securityweekly.com/asw for all the latest episodes! Show Notes: https://securityweekly.com/asw-325…

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Avoiding Appsec's Worst Practices - ASW #324 1:11:19

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We take advantage of April Fools to look at some of appsec's myths, mistakes, and behaviors that lead to bad practices. It's easy to get trapped in a status quo of chasing CVEs or discussing which direction to shift security. But scrutinizing decimal points in CVSS scores or rearranging tools misses the opportunity for more strategic thinking. We satirize some worst practices in order to have a more serious discussion about a future where more software is based on secure designs. Segment resources: https://bsidessf2025.sched.com/event/1x8ST/secure-designs-ux-dragons-vuln-dungeons-application-security-weekly https://bsidessf2025.sched.com/event/1x8TU/preparing-for-dragons-dont-sharpen-swords-set-traps-gather-supplies https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc3514.html https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc1149.html Visit https://www.securityweekly.com/asw for all the latest episodes! Show Notes: https://securityweekly.com/asw-324…

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Finding a Use for GenAI in AppSec - Keith Hoodlet - ASW #323 54:08

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LLMs are helping devs write code, but is it secure code? How are LLMs helping appsec teams? Keith Hoodlet returns to talk about where he's seen value from genAI, where it fits in with tools like source code analysis and fuzzers, and where its limitations mean we'll be relying on humans for a while. Those limitations don't mean appsec should dismiss LLMs as a tool. It means appsec should understand how things like context windows might limit a tool's security analysis to a few files, leaving a security architecture review to humans. Segment resources: https://securing.dev/posts/ai-security-reasoning-and-bias/ https://seclists.org/dailydave/2025/q1/0 https://arxiv.org/pdf/2409.16165 https://arxiv.org/pdf/2410.05229 https://nicholas.carlini.com/writing/2025/thoughts-on-future-ai.html Visit https://www.securityweekly.com/asw for all the latest episodes! Show Notes: https://securityweekly.com/asw-323…

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