Communication Strategist for C-Suite

Let‘s Talk HR - Humanizing the Conversation

Michele Price is a brilliant multi-faceted women with a keen ability to understand humans and help them better understand themselves. As a Lifelong entrepreneur with over 35 years of experience in leadership. As a leadership advisor and communication strategist for CEO’s, senior leaders and business owners. She is a master at asking the right question to bring out the right information at the right time to help leaders grow. Join us for a great and insightful conversation.

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Leighann Lovely 00:20

HR professionals, business owners and operations at all levels are struggling to figure out what needs to change. Our system has been shocked practices have been questioned, and conversations are finally happening. We all know there has been a huge shift in what people want. inclusion and diversity are common phrases. But often misunderstood generations are coming together more than ever on what's important. Mental health has been brought to the forefront of everyone's mind. Let's humanize these conversations. Let's talk about what's important for employees to be successful in life and at their job and how companies can create an environment to allow them to do both because successful people will make up a successful workforce. I'm Leighann. Lovely. Let's get this conversation started. Today we are talking with Michelle price, a lifelong entrepreneur who has held all types of leadership roles, CEOs, CMOs ce o 's, in six plus different businesses across multiple industries over 35 years, and who now serves as a leadership advisor and a communication strategist for CEOs, senior leaders and business owners. As a human behaviorist, she brings you a unique lens to developing your leadership skills. Michelle, thank you so much for joining me today. I am excited to talk with you.

Michele Price 01:50

Thank you for having me. I'm glad to be here.

Leighann Lovely 01:52

So why don't you start off by telling my audience and the audience a little bit about yourself and what you do?

Michele Price 02:00

Well, so for label wise, I'm a leadership advisor and a communication strategist. And that all comes from having a 40 year arc in business across multiple roles. So entrepreneurs, CEO, CFO CMO, and as I've sat in each one of those decision making roles, it allowed me to acquire a really deep well of knowledge. Over the years with each business, because I've had six plus businesses over that 40 year art, that's now become a beautiful bevy of wisdom to tap into. And because below was a 70s, when I started, I've seen a lot of change in history, and have a lot of lived experience as a woman in business. And one of the things that happened to me when I was in my 50s was, I said, God, I wish I had known this, this and this in my earlier years. And so as I was contemplating what I wanted to shift into, and out of, you know, I wanted to close down my marketing agency, being a fractional chief marketing officer, because marketing is 24/7. I don't care how you try to play the hours is 24/7. And I didn't want to be doing that kind of lifestyle into my 60s. And so, as I'm contemplating, you know, where do I go with this phase and cycle of my life, knowing that, no matter how old I get, my brain has always been this as even when I was a little girl, it's taken all of the actions over time for me to see origins of where my brain was always thinking in the course of business. And so when I was contemplating what does that change need to look like? I had those kind of conversations with myself. I was like, alright, what would I like to have known that was younger? And how can I help other women, no matter which phase of growth they're in, so that they can achieve what they want to achieve. Without all the resistance that can come along with having either one, their own conditioning, you know, things they've been conditioned by family or society or to the oppressive kind of conditioning that can be placed on women just because of our gender.

Leighann Lovely 04:49

And interesting that well said first of all, because you're you're you're very right when I you know I sit here in my in my 40s and I think Wow, if I would have known or somebody would have, and you can't just simply tell somebody, you can't just simply go and say, Your let me tell you what, but you can you can help coach and consult with somebody and say, let me help guide you through some of this to help them come to an understanding of what, especially with somebody who's so experienced as you and help them see things clearer, especially as a younger entrepreneur, younger, not even entrepreneur, but somebody who's in business who wants to level up. Because had I known what I know, now, in my late 20s. You know, I feel like I could have been so much farther. However, there's also the How did I not gain some of the knowledge? Throughout my, my 30s, you know, because my 30s was a huge, probably the biggest growth period for me. But if I would have had somebody coaching me, like you, maybe that growth period would have been half of what it was. And maybe I would have been able to get where I am now, and half the time, and maybe been able to overcome some of those hurdles, that either I put up on my own of my own. Because of my own conditioning of thinking that I couldn't do it, or because somebody told me in my past, I wasn't capable of doing it. Or, you know, the whole, what does that? What does that I can't think of the phrase right now. Or because just the way that society makes you feel as a the way that even even your job makes you feel of Oh, yeah, I'm not I'm not good enough to do that. But if you have somebody who's been there done that saying, Yes, you are capable of overcoming that hurdle. That would have made all of the difference in being able to make that growth period for me, exponentially shorter.

Michele Price 07:39

And there's something I'd like to add in here that I hear people say that, as listeners are listening to them, I'm going to challenge them to ask a different question. Because usually what they say to us when we say I could have been in such a different place, had I known all these things that come back phrases, yeah, but you wouldn't have learned what you've learned, and then everything would have changed. I'm like, Oh, guys, stop diminishing. It can be Bo. I can still have learned those things. without all the extra challenges. There's an assumption in that statement, that if I didn't go through all the turmoil, I wouldn't have learned the lesson bullshit.

Leighann Lovely 08:28

I agree with that. I I'm gonna use a really bad example. But so on Monday, I broke my finger. Now I was one.

Michele Price 08:40

Yeah, your hand.

Leighann Lovely 08:44

So and Mike, this was a huge learning experience, not for me, because I knew as soon as I did it, I went, Oh my God, how stupid does one person have to be to be rushing, and then close their, their car door on their pinky, to the point where I actually had to open my car door in order to get it out. My daughter was standing there when it happened. So this is not a learning experience. For me. This is a learning experience for my daughter. So I'm dropping her off at school like close my door and my pinkie have to pretend that I'm perfectly perfectly fine because she sees and she hears the noise that comes out of my mouth, which was very muffled. I managed to make it you know, non eventful for all of the other kids around and she says, Mommy, are you okay? Yep, I'm perfectly fine. Go to school. Have a great day. Meanwhile, I jump in my car, my entire hand is shaking. And I'm holding in this you know, what I want to do is scream out. You know, all the words that are colorful is so I get home I should have gone to the hospital. But I don't realize at this point how bad it is because I'm just holding it in. She gets home from school, the learning that I now go into. I says I say to my daughter, Skylar this morning, Mommy was in a huge rush. And I wasn't paying attention to what I was doing. And so what I did was I was holding on to the door and I closed the door, and mommy's finger was in it. Oh, and I said, and I wasn't paying attention. And so my finger got stuck in the door. Oh, I said, so because I wasn't paying attention. I hurt myself. Oh, I said, so, you know, when mommy tells you that you need to pay attention to what you're doing. Yeah. I said, that's why. So, from that, you know, I turned my stupid broken finger from Commodore into a learning lesson, she doesn't need to break her finger to learn. From that experience, we don't all have to go through the pain to learn something. If it's explained to us in a way that we can get something out of it. Not everybody has to, you know, go through the pains if they are willing to receive the information. But again, that that comes back to the mindsets. Are you willing to receive the information? And learn from it? Or are you of the mindset that you have to go through the pain in order to learn from it? Because there are

Michele Price 11:31

times it depends on the cycle of learning, you're in as well? Yes, that's where it's important for whoever is your advisor to pay attention to? Where are they in the learning cycle? And am I trying to make them Quantum Leap too big?

Leighann Lovely 11:46

And I absolutely agree. I absolutely agree. But, but you're when you make that statement of Oh, whoa, I had to have lived through that. Not every time, not every time. Not everybody has to break their finger to realize that they shouldn't put their hand in the door when they close it. You know, there are plenty of plenty of examples, plenty of people out there that can walk them through, you know, here's what happens if, but we can we can make it better. Or we can do things different because the outcome could be this versus this and so you perfect timing to have a broken finger to give the exhale a note to my listeners, please make sure you don't close your car door on your pinky finger because it's unpleasant like a mofo. Yeah, so, tell me when you work with somebody? Or actually before I ask that. So do you typically work with individuals? Or do you sometimes? Or do you not sometimes do you engage organizations? How do you how do you engage people and how do you work with them?

Michele Price 13:05

It's both. Okay. I've probably been more word word word. Probably been more. Like that's not the right word. I haven't been as active in going after quote, like, company type engagements. They're showing up though, and and I love how I've taken a little more of No, oh, backseats not a good analogy. I've taken just a little more of a relaxed attitude towards who I want to engage with company wise, because I've watched a lot of my colleagues get really burned out why trying to, quote, sell a company on something and they say they want to make those changes in that and go in there and they fight him tooth and nail. And so I've taken a more relaxed approach to it and paid attention to who we're which kind of goes back to what we talked about the the lesson, curve cycle. Where are they really in their knowingness and their willingness to make the change? What I find is, so for example, everything that leads my actions, my questions, my decisions and my actions comes from my statement of purpose that I want to accomplish this last phase or third phase of life. And that is I want to see 75% underrepresented voices at all, decision making tables everywhere. I don't care if that's local government, national, local government, I don't care if that small business, regional businesses, big business, I don't care where. But the entire community needs to be at the decision making tables, we're already seeing the outcomes of them not being there. So when you think about it from that direction, what I find is, I have chosen to focus on working with individuals who want to be able to lead from that kind of place in energy and want to have that kind of impact in our purposes and values align. And now what I'm finding that even though I have a really heart driven desire to work with women in business, whether they own their own business or their, their business leaders inside of companies, I jokingly said, and this is this is the, this is the funny part. We always say don't, don't give a throw down or a dare to the universe. I jokingly said last summer, How funny would it being if I ended up working with a bunch of male allies? Now, while I've built my business around women in leadership, guess who's starting to hold their hands up? male allies, and some of them have been in government, some have been in business. I'm letting it organically grow, just like a garden, from people who either see from conversations online, and they resonate in something pulls them to reach out and want to work with me, or they hear from somebody that they know, like, and trust. And they're like, you know, I know you've been talking about blah, blah, blah, blah. And I'm going to tell you right now, I've been working with this gal for six months, and here's what I've learned about me. You can't do it any better than that, then. So you know, it's not my goal, the B word, word word. And I say that a lot. Because as I've, as I've become more conscious of my ADHD, is that a force in myself, that's my anchor to my brain to go give me the word I need. I've become more conscious of being a good receiver. So often, leaders, some of their biggest lessons come from what I call the Yin side of the lesson. Yes, we need to be decisive. Yes, we need to be good, great decision makers. But how good are we at listening? And how good are we at receiving? We've already seen the toxic outcome of push action, and push leadership that only comes from here's what I think we need to do. Versus All right. You all tell me, what are you experiencing? Knowing that we're all on the same page of what we're trying to accomplish in the business. And then after you heard that information, now you have enough data to add yours in and start problem solving. But if you're solving, if you think you're solving something from your perspective, you're missing 99% of the data that's there to help you.

Leighann Lovely 18:52

Write. Interesting. And, and so I want to go back organically growing your allies. And I'm sorry, I'm thinking so you have more men reaching out to you. And despite the fact that you've, you're vocal about you want to help women, why do you think that is?

Michele Price 19:23

So that's, that's only happened in the past, I'd say three months, and so shorter timespan to give any kind of pattern to it, but I'm what I really think, timing wise. So where we are in the world right now. And the kind of conversations that are even happening on LinkedIn, which, you know, had always been this stuffier social media platform. People are starting to finally recognize those of us like myself who Been talking about individual versus collective energy for years, they're starting to finally understand it, they're starting to finally see the repercussions of what happens when we all take individual actions, and how that contributes to us as a whole. And so because they're seeing that, and they're feeling it in a really visceral way, with the challenges that's happening in business with the challenges that are happening in government, and then what the challenges are happening socially, as well as our climate change, it's literally happening in every phase of life. This is where someone like myself, who's always operated from an indigenous lens, bring some really cool questions and ability to assess things from a really different perspective, and people are noticing.

Leighann Lovely 20:54

So do you think that do you think that, um, that some of these individuals are strategically reaching out to somebody who is an end? Here's historically, I would say that a lot of people reached out to somebody who is like minded. And this is what the problem, you know, where a problem, you know, was, let me go find a coach who is like minded. Okay, well, what is that going to do? They're going to align with you on your decisions, they're going to align with you on the way that you think, how are they going to help you grow? Right? If I want to find a coach, I want to find a coach that aligns with my morals, with my ethics. But I also want to find a coach who's going to help push me to think a different way. Which means if you know, in reality, why don't I go find a coach that is of a different background, or maybe a male coach, maybe even have a different ethnical, or ethnic background. Because then they come from a total different, you know, even upbringing would then allow me to, to be exposed to somebody who could teach could consult and helping me open my mind to different ideas. So I'm going to guess that males are reaching out to you because they see that not only are you brilliant, but you're a woman who may be able to help them understand their female counterparts, better, help them shift their mindset better, and be more open to ideas that they themselves, just simply because of biology, and proven that men and women do not necessarily always think the same. Same as somebody, you know, somebody who is of a different race, bring, and it's proven, bring different ideas, because simply of our upbringing, we think differently. We, we come with different ideas we have, and that's what makes it so beautiful. When we allow the underrepresented at the table, we are able to create new ideas. And so it would make sense that they are reaching out to you because they want to grow. So I applaud them. And if it's not for that, then it would be based solely on your on your credentials, which again, you should be proud either way. Right.

Michele Price 24:13

Thank you. So

Leighann Lovely 24:17

I mean, and good for you for taking on, you know, clients who are not necessarily what you originally thought out for. But you know, well, I'm a salesperson. take on clients.

Michele Price 24:36

Well, yeah, so there's some clients I'm not willing to take on Yep.

Leighann Lovely 24:41

No, and I I totally agree. There are some clients that I'm, you know, that I would not be willing to take on that I'm not willing to take on either. So, so that's, I find that very interesting. I find that wildly interesting because it is It is important that you know you don't that somebody who's looking for somebody like you that they assess how they are choosing that person. And that you're not just simply choosing somebody who is going to give you all of the Yep, I agree with that you're doing that, right. And if it's somebody who already have

Michele Price 25:26

plenty of Yes, men inside their company, they don't need another one. That's why they're in the position, they are correct. And in all fairness, a lot of times their employee, or the people they've put in managing and leading roles aren't to blame, because they haven't rewarded him for the things that allowed them to give them any kind of pushback.

Leighann Lovely 25:48

So let's, let's talk, let's dive a little bit deeper into, you know, how do you help develop these individuals and these organizations? What is the actual work that you do with them? Let's let's dive deeper into that.

Michele Price 26:04

That, that, that can change so much because of the fact that everyone's in a different place. And all right. So here's the difference in how I do that. I know a lot of people who are either doing leadership advisory or they're doing some type of change, management, change training, they just go in with a formula. They teach their formula and they exit. That is not how I I'm much more focused on less assess. Who do you think you are right now? How aligned is that with who you want to be? What are your actual core strengths and weaknesses? So I do a lot of work using archetypes. And so we start diving into that. And because I am a master question asker. And I'm fully in tune with all of my senses. It's why I'm able to be a live lie detection machine. And when people aren't answering with something that's 100%. Yes, I've honed my skill well enough to use questions to help narrow in and elicit down to where the challenge is where the misalignment is. So it's much more intricate. It's not, it's not, you know, we're going to do ABC, and everyone's gonna use this workbook. And you know, then we'll talk about it, you know, that that reminds me of where therapy went wrong, too. Oh, boy, did I put my foot in it? But hey, you know, I'm used to, I'm used to stimulating people to have the hard questions, right. And those are the people who really enjoy working with me, is the fact that I am willing to have the hard conversations with them. But it's not just from a straight confronting position. I also have the energy and the training, to be able to hold the space and use masterful questions to allow them to start seeing things for themselves of themselves in themselves. In that moment, they literally have breakthroughs just from conversations.

Leighann Lovely 28:57

That's amazing. So it really it really is that you you customize. It's customized to each individual. Yeah, you don't have a, you know, like, some of the large, you know, an action coach some of the large, you know, coaching programs out there. There's not a, like, here's a proven program that you work with individuals. It's really a matter of going in and having real authentic conversations and calling people out on their bullshit and saying, Okay, no, you may. And sometimes people don't even realize that they're bullshitting themselves.

Michele Price 29:43

And being able to do it in a way where it's not judgmental or shaming, that's really, really important. People are not gonna open up to the components of where the emotional, the emotional line is in a problem. If you don't have the capacity acity to actually do that, and that's where I see a lot of people, they don't have the capacity to do that type of work. And leaders need someone who have that capacity. Because you can handle things from a surface or an intellectual basis that you're never going to get to the core of the problem if you don't know how to do the emotional work. And there's a difference between someone who's masterful at being able to do each layer of work, whether it's mental, intellectual, spiritual, emotional, and someone who's a therapist, you don't really need a therapist when you're having true mental health issues that are outside of the realm of you doing your inner work. So many times though people weren't word word, they, they give up their responsibility for doing their own inner work. And label it. Well, I just need to go see a therapist. Well, okay, so tell me, how do you actually how do you do your own emotional regulation? What, what are you doing from a spiritual basis, that allows you to really know who you are, right? Because a therapist is going to be able to help you do those things, those that her journey,

Leighann Lovely 31:28

but there's a lot of people that don't. And this is a generational thing, this this truly is a generational thing. Suppress, suppress, suppress, suppress. Now, the generation that's coming up, parents, you know, got smarter, because there wasn't that, you know, suppress emotion suppress emotions. You know, it wasn't in boys don't cry. It kind of generational thing, but, you know, and, but there is this generational thing of you don't experience emotions, it's not okay to cry, you know, suck it up, rub some dirt on it. That was that was, you know, a generation now, we're unlucky. The kids coming up are lucky, you know, my daughter will throw a fit, and I'll say to her, it's okay to, you know, it's okay to be upset. It's not okay to hit throw, you know, or the actions in which she has from the emotion that she's experiencing. So we've we figured out that emotion is good. You know, but now we need to figure out the reaction or the whatever you're doing. We just need to hone in on that. But so generationally, we had a group of people large, you know, especially the baby boomers, and some of the generations off after that was suppressed emotion. Don't show people that you're, you know, don't cry in front of people. It's inappropriate. Why cry? If you're if telling you

Michele Price 33:03

why? Because one of the things I would really like everybody to stop doing is continuing to place a lot of blame on boomers in only because it doesn't serve you it doesn't serve the collective. What's happened is people generationally have been traumatized. And so like we were talking about earlier, where research, you know, so research goes in cycles, like anything else. And so, so this is coming from an indigenous lens. From an indigenous lands, our focus is always about self actualization first, because the self actualized person can contribute to the community. Everybody has a role, and everybody is respected. When when we live in times where people don't have that spiritual thread or component as part of their life, and instead, aspects of spirituality have morphed into religion, which has been weakened, historically, see how it's been used to control people, then you have severed their connection to a huge piece of who they are. And so anytime someone has a severed connection in any area of their life, that's a trauma. And if we haven't rewarded them, or given them the tools to need in order to reconnect and become full again. Then we're part of the problem. And so what I'm seeing is this ping pong game that happens with generations because it's the easy thing to do. It's easy to blame our parents or our grandparents. To and I'm not saying you're doing it, yeah. But without taking into consideration, the time, the tools and whether they were rewarded or punished for trying to find the answers to heal those.

Leighann Lovely 35:21

Right. And I'm not in there is absolutely just just to clarify, I am not blaming any generation for, I'm simply saying that there was a lack of understanding and education in the years past to truly understand that, that emotions are not bad. But they are for some uncomfortable, and therefore, in the past, it was if you need to cry, go in your room and hide and men especially.

Michele Price 35:53

But that was how we were punished that that is how groups of people right, saw that if you can control people from an emotional basis, if you can suppress them, then we can control and manipulate them. Which is why in some of my headers, I don't know if I have it on LinkedIn anymore. But I believe it's still Twitter, or whatever that thing is, well, now that emotions are data for better decisions.

Leighann Lovely 36:20

And now that we are in a state where we're understanding that, while emotions may be messy, but they're, they're necessary, they're necessary for learning, they're necessary for decision making. They're necessary for for so much. We are one, obviously, we're going through this huge, huge mental health pen, like, I don't want to say pandemic, but huge mental health, like issue because people are finally going I need to feel the way I need to feel. And everybody is just feeling this overwhelming, like sense of dread, especially with what the world experienced, blah, blah, blah. But that's going to balance out.

Michele Price 37:11

Because now we're aware of evolution.

Leighann Lovely 37:15

And we're going to balance we're going to balance out because now we're saying it's okay to feel that way. Feel it, get through it, experience what you need to experience, and then thrive. And one day, it's going to balance out and get some of these kids off of these drugs, hopefully. And again, I'm not I'm not an anti drug person, trust me, I have bipolar disorder, my audience knows that I, in order to manage, manage that I take medication, blah, blah, blah, anyways. So it's just it's so messy. We're in such a state of complete mess right now. But I do truly see that there's going to be a balance on the other side, one day, we're going to come to a little bit more of a balance on all of that we're it's just so strange.

Michele Price 38:12

Such a strange time in history, the nature to their cycles and phases in nature. Yes, yeah. So this is one of the things that I usually have to bring up from an indigenous lens to help give people an anchor point of where they can hold on to and attach, hope and understand and ask themselves additional or different questions. And so, yes, we're going through a lot of things as a collective right now, the questions I'd offer people to start asking themselves is, where am I in the phase and the cycle of growth? So if we, if we're going to pick let's say, let's pick a nature growth cycle of a butterfly, am I in the caterpillar stage? Am I in the FUPA stage? Or am I about to emerge, and now I'm about to actually transmute and transform into something else. And so when you use questions to start assessing where you're at, then it allows you to anchor in on that in one stop blaming and shaming yourself because you're not because you're in a different phase than where maybe you mentally or emotionally feeling you are in you're in the pupa stage where you're supposed to be liquefied. And before you start growing into that next thing, which allows you to become a butterfly, stop shaming yourself for being in that phase Instead, start asking yourself different questions. Cool. So now that I'm going down into the liquid state, what are going to be the additional additional opportunities or possibilities that I'll want to tap into So as I go in those more phase, I actually would become more of what I'd like to be.

Leighann Lovely 40:06

Right. That's, that's while you make a very valid point, like, and people I think, forget that sometimes reframing the question, or having a question altogether, that's different. can really change your outlook?

Michele Price 40:28

Yeah, because when I hear people state that they're overwhelmed that, that just means that this is the focus instead of this. So we use questions to go okay, so not that. Okay, so not that when people can't see us, we're on video. So I'm holding my hands wide. And I'm saying, okay, overwhelm is a wide Outland. Every time we ask questions, we narrow that lens until it becomes a point where it's more of a laser. And then we're getting meaningful answers. And we can take action.

Leighann Lovely 41:08

Absolutely. And as entrepreneurs, as in people, that entrepreneurs or people who are very high, you know, decision makers, within businesses, it's sometimes that overwhelming, you can feel it Come on, where all of the sudden you are accomplishing nothing. And then as you focus in and that becomes that focus becomes that pinpoint, you can feel that overwhelming feeling just fall away when you go. Now I know my purpose, I know exactly what I need to accomplish. And all of a sudden, you don't feel that overwhelming. And once you get one project done, you can go okay, now I can move on to the next and I can move on to the next. But it's hard when you're in that point of oh my god, what do I have to do? I've got so much to do, I don't even know where to begin. Okay, well stop. What is the most important thing today

Michele Price 41:55

Where the value of having an advisor correct and help you anchor into what's really happening? Yep. Help you use different questions in the future, using it that moment, and therefore you make what I call a faster or quicker progress.

Leighann Lovely 42:13

And it's hard. Um, it's in I have people in my life where I'll call on him, I don't even know where to start. Like, I've got so many things. I don't even know where to start. And they're like, Okay, what is the most important thing today? What do you have to do right now? That is either revenue generating, or extremely important, you have to hone in on what is the most important thing today? Right now? Well, yeah, I can tell you that it's this. Okay. Go do that. Oh, I can do that. Okay, call me when you're done. Oh, okay. And it's just, it's like, why can't I figure that out on my own? Because you're so overwhelmed, that your brain doesn't have the capacity to just think like that at that moment. So sometimes having a coach having an advisor to just be like, yep, we just need you to click back into your brilliance. You can't on your own because your brain is whirling of NF geeks, especially when you have bipolar disorder, or ADHD, or, which adds another level of fondness to the game, right?

Michele Price 43:29

Yes, it does. And you know, it's interesting, too, because people are starting to finally understand when I talk about this other thing, and that's collective energy. There's now the science is catching up to spirituality, especially indigenous spirituality. People are starting to finally have more of an intellectual understanding of this. But if you've not been so kind of like when you learn how to dance. Now, when you learn how to dance in the beginning, are you going to be able to go out and do all of the different types of dances? Oh, take Sunday, learn each one. And then when you learn each one, you actually can do what's that thing? We're where people can actually just go up and make something someone puts on a record and they just go out and make

Leighann Lovely 44:21

improv.

Michele Price 44:22

Oh, yeah, that that all takes time. Same thing. When we're in a phase right now of collective evolution, other words, that means we're all being activated by the same thing at the same time, and that's where some of the highly motivated, emotional energy is coming from right now. If your spiritual journey has not been one who knows how to transmute that energy, it's going to be overwhelming. And so I remind everybody is Well, when you're feeling overwhelmed when you understand your emotional components, it's a lot easier for you to, again use questions and go okay. What What have I learned about myself that helps ground me? Go do that, then once you're grounded go is the Are these my emotions are these someone else's. And then I literally give clients a whole list of questions to ask themselves. And a lot of times we customize those questions to who they are, in order to help center them, and bring them to a place where they can start taking action. But I also want to remind everybody, it's normal, when the collective is going through something as significant as we are right now, to feel overwhelmed. So stop shaming yourself for it, right? Instead, ask yourself, why do I need to learn about myself that allows me to center and ground myself. So this doesn't take me off my path so easily, right?

Leighann Lovely 46:05

Yes, and I would love to continue this conversation. But we are coming to time. And I want to ask you the question of the season, and I'm excited to hear what you have to say, the question of the season, what do you think will go down in the history books from what the world has experienced over the last three years?

Michele Price 46:29

I can't give a date. But we will come to a transmutation where when we look back as a people, and as individuals, where we're going to look back and go, Why did we find ourselves so hard? We were all right there on the precipice of being self actualized. And being in touch with who we are as people as individuals, as well as the goodness that's in us as a collective, why do we find ourselves in each other so hard? We were right there,

Leighann Lovely 47:10

you know, for the first for the first time, and and you are a highly empathetic human, very much an empath. You know, just in talking with you, and hearing, you know, and again, for the audience, I, Michelle and I were introduced through a past guest and her and I have not had a ton of time to really talk with each other. This is really the first conversation that her and I have had. And so just wanted to put that out there. But in talking with you, Michelle, you you just really I can tell that you are very in tuned with not only yourself, but with other people. And in talking with you, as I'm sitting here, I'm having this like Flash, and this is my own weird brain. I have like flashes of like pictures of things in my head of like, I'm a visual person. And as we're talking, I feel like I'm seeing this like, almost like a like I'm standing on top of the clouds. And I'm looking down at a tornado and into the center of it. Right. And I feel like that's, that's where we're at where we are in the center of the tornado as, as everything you know, is is colliding together with when it comes to the state of I don't know that. Not explaining this? Well. I don't know that we've ever in history had a pandemic, the Well, no, we haven't had all of this collides since, you know, we haven't had a pandemic since, you know, way back. And anyways, let me finish. We had the pandemic we had, you know, everything that's happening with the economy, we had a president come you know, the the political unrest, we've had all of the stuff happening with the race wars, all of a technology booming through, you know, going through the roof with all of the things that are colliding all at once, just it to me, it's like this tornado of things at all. And we haven't gotten out of it, you know, we still have all of these other, these other things that are contributing to this like tornado. And I feel like there's going to come a time just like you just said, you don't know the date, but there's going to come a time that people are going to look back at this and go Oh, my God, the world spinous so far forward, and they experienced so much in such a short period of time, which I think is why we're fighting it because people don't know They don't know how to handle so much happening in such a short period of time. Maybe by the time my daughter is an adult, she's going to be the one that goes, Why did they fight that? Why? I don't understand. Because she will finally be of the mindset of Yeah, that's how change happens. Right? But for you and me change is not supposed to happen that fast. You mean, it took? When did you get your first cell phone? Michelle?

Michele Price 50:41

Oh, so I was one of the I was I've been an early adopter in almost every form. So I got it when it was like the really big

Leighann Lovely 50:50

right. So did I mean I got I got a cell phone and it was you know, I'm my hands. It was the huge, you know, the, you had a green lettering on it. It was an ugly, huge phone, you had to get a bigger purse just to carry it around.

Michele Price 51:08

It had its own little bag that it zipped up in in car.

Leighann Lovely 51:11

Okay, you have the bag phone, you actually have the bag phone. Okay. So how long did it take from getting the bag phone to having a computer in your pocket? years, years, and years and years? Because then we went through, you know, the flip phones, we went through, you know, the BlackBerry two, it was years until we actually had phones that were now computers. That's how change happens. It doesn't happen where one day you're working in an office and the next day you become a remote employee doing all of your meetings online. But that's what happened.

Michele Price 51:57

Well, sometimes history interferes and causes it to happen faster.

Leighann Lovely 52:02

Yep. So excellent answer. I did not expect to ramble on but I just You had such an amazing answer. So Michelle, if somebody wanted to get a hold of you, how would they go about doing that?

Michele Price 52:16

You know, the best way to get a hold of me is on LinkedIn. So literally linkedin.com Michelle Bryce, I made sure I got my name. No initials, nothing Michelle price.

Leighann Lovely 52:29

Excellent. And that will be in the show notes. So somebody can just go right to the show notes and click there and the link will be there. So Michelle, thank you so much. This has been an amazing conversation. I could talk to you for hours.

Michele Price 52:42

Thank you for having me. I appreciate it.

Leighann Lovely 52:45

Thank you again for listening to Let's Talk HR. I appreciate your time and support. Without you the audience this would not be possible. So don't forget that if you enjoyed this episode, to follow us, like us or share us. Have a wonderful day.

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