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Into the Mud Podcast delves into the messy and uncertain junctures of life, exploring the transitional spaces where growth and self-discovery occur. Inspired by the wisdom of “no mud, no lotus,” this show fearlessly tackles the mayhem of growth. While others only celebrate the "wins", we want to celebrate your mud! Join us (Drew King and Alex Kumin!) every week as we dive deep into topics like major life transitions, navigating grief, parenting, taking the scary step into the unknown, and mu ...
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The journey of a creative performer is a rollercoaster of triumphs matched with challenges, where moments of applause and recognition often intertwine with periods of doubt and reinvention. Success can feel fleeting, while rejection sharpens resilience and fuels growth. It's a path of constant evolution, and on this week’s episode, Broadway actor K…
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Career transitions are painful, scary, confusing and disorienting, especially if it’s not your choice; dancers face many challenges as they age into their careers, and permanent injury is potentially one of them. This is exactly what Broadway performer and television choreographer, Sarah Jenkins, was forced to confront after a herniated disk led to…
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Formally known as “cherophobia”, this lesser-known phobia (the fear of happiness) tends to coincide with OCD and depression; and these accompanying symptoms are no stranger to accomplished Canadian-American basketball player and comedian, Henry Sir. On this week’s episode, Henry beautifully opens up about his “fear of happiness”, his challenges wit…
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Regardless of age, career or degrees of therapization, rejection is a deeply uncomfortable experience. Sure, as we grow and evolve, we build armor and coping mechanisms that help us navigate the sting more gracefully; but, sometimes, it simply burns like hell. This week, Drew and Alex get muddy about their complicated relationships with rejection, …
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Social media is a double-edged sword, offering creators a platform to celebrate creativity, build community, and connect with audiences in meaningful ways. However, it also opens the door to privacy violations and unchecked access, blurring the lines between personal and public life. French-American creator, Cécilia Jourdan, knows about this experi…
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Tick-tock, tick-tock. As time slips by, have you ever wondered if you’re “too late”? Do you worry about wasted time, elusive life milestones, deadlines, struggles with time management? If so, this episode is for you. This week, comedian and actress Julia Shiplett gets muddy about the fear of wasted time. Bio: Julia Shiplett is a comedian, writer, a…
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As we grow older, friendship dynamics can shift in many different and unexpected ways. Making new friends becomes more difficult, and often, old friends are lost along the way. On today’s episode, actress and Brooklyn native, Kristin Dodson, gets muddy about the complexities of adult friendships—the ones we choose to keep, and the ones we learn to …
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What happens when a medical crisis puts your life on hold and forces you to stop? For busybodies and doers, this is a brutal challenge; the root of which is a deep identity crisis. On this week’s episode, Broadway’s Donnie Kehr gets muddy about the multiple times his health has compromised his independence and forced him to slow down and “smell the…
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Alcohol consumption is deeply embedded in the fabric of our daily lives: dates, social gatherings, birthdays, bad days, good days, pandemic hobbies. Many people have a healthy relationship with alcohol. And, many do not. According to the NIAA (National Institute on Alcohol Abuse and Alcoholism), a reported 15 million Americans struggle with alcohol…
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Conversations on addiction and recovery are not new to "Into the Mud", and this week's episode is not to be missed. Podcast host, comedian and corporate American "Daddy" Judson Morrow dives headfirst into the mud with Drew and Alex to discuss his dark and life-threatening history with crystal methamphetamine. Dark humored, intellectual, and admirab…
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Bessel van der Kolk's popular book, "The Body Keeps the Score", tackles the heavy repercussions that emotional trauma and stress leave on the physical body. Actress Vasthy Mompoint is no stranger to this phenomenon. Battling a crippling divorce, an ADHD diagnosis, lifesaving fibroid surgery, and even early menopause, Vasthy and her body have been t…
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We all need to pay the bills, but where do we draw the line and learn when to establish boundaries? This can be an overwhelming challenge for workaholics; especially freelancers who live in the constant state of "feast or famine". On this week's episode Broadway actor, Harris Milgrim, attempts to reconcile his unhealthy relationship to work with hi…
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Grief sucks. Period. But, grief stacked on top of a complicated relationship with the deceased can be even more devastating. On this week’s episode, stand-up comedian, Mehran Khaghani, embraces his dark sense of humor as well as his deep well of compassion in the wake of losing his both mother AND mother-in-law in the span of three months. Bio: Meh…
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You know what is equally inspiring and horrible? Being a beginner! On today's episode, Drew and Alex Get a little meta and a lot muddy about the painful learning curves of creating a podcast, as well as the challenges of embracing a "beginner's mindset" later on in life. Bio: Alex is a New York based comedian by way of Chicago and Boston whose bold…
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"Age isn't a number, it's an attitude". This adage surrounding aging can apply to many chapters of life, but on this episode of Into the Mud, Drew and Alex sit down with Broadway finance director, Floyd Sklaver, to talk about his fears and anxieties (as well as hopes and desires) bubbling up with his impending retirement. Bio: Floyd has been the Di…
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Social media is a double-edged sword: it blinds us with comparison, but sometimes, it functions as a powerful tool for connection and awareness. On this week of Into the Mud, stand-up comedian and writer, Carly Kane, opens up about this exact duality; specifically, how it brought to light her recent OCD diagnosis (Obsessive Compulsive Disorder). Th…
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Episode 8: Alex Puette Gets Muddy About Addiction, Recovery and Sobriety
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On today's episode, Drew and Alex dive deep into the pain and agony of addiction as well as the gifts of recovery with Broadway actor, Alex Puette. Sobriety is an incredibly challenging path; Drew and Alex are still sitting in deep admiration of Alex's recovery from crystal meth. There is no "one-size-fits-all" solution to addiction; so, join Alex …
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You know what’s really muddy? Breakups. On Episode 7 of Into the Mud, boxer and personal trainer, Sydney Miller, dives into the grungy swamp of saying goodbye to a “situationship”. We have all been hung up on someone that no longer aligns with our values and goals, but how do you find the strength to say goodbye? And, how do you navigate the messy …
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Do you ever find yourself comparing your life to others? The “comparison monster” rears its ugly head every so often, and it can be a real struggle to keep it in check. Fortunately, you are not alone. In this episode of “Into the Mud”, Drew and Alex dive deep into the discomfort and muddiness of comparison. Bio: Alex is a New York based comedian by…
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Episode 5: Richard Riaz Yoder Gets Muddy About Honoring Their Authenticity Through Career Transition
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"Authenticity" is such a buzzword these days, but in this episode of Into the Mud, you will see why Drew and Alex wanted to tackle that very topic with the super talented Broadway dancer and choreographer, Richard Riaz Yoder. Richard shares their journey of transitioning from a celebrated dancer to choreographer, delving into the muddy challenges o…
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On Episode 4, Drew and Alex sit down with filmmaker and actress, Shayla Benoit, to get muddy about her harrowing and courageous recovery from Stage 4 lymphoma and papillary thyroid cancer. Shayla’s vulnerability and generosity shine through in this inspiring story that is a testament to the resilience of the human spirit. Bio: Shayla Benoit is a fi…
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With great waves of creativity come great waves of burnout; sometimes the fountain just runs dry. During this episode of "Into the Mud", actress Sasheer Zamata opens up about the muddiness of burnout that accompanies a freelance creative lifestyle. Bio: Sasheer Zamata is a comedian, actress and writer who can be seen on ABC's Home Economics, Hulu's…
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Alex and Drew sit down with Tony-Nominated actress, Lilli Cooper, for an intimate and vulnerable conversation about the challenges of parenting, marriage and work-life balance. There is more to life beyond the spotlight, and Lilli delivers us a raw but lighthearted glimpse behind the curtain. Bio: Lilli Cooper is a Tony nominated actress who is cur…
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For their debut episode, Drew and Alex invite accomplished actor and writer, David A. Gregory, to dive headfirst into a muddy conversation about grief. After the passing of David's father from Alzheimer's Disease in November of 2023, David is still wading in the muddy waters of loss. For those who have lost a family member, friend, sibling, coworke…
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Alex is a standup comedian. Drew is a Broadway performer. Together, they are your hosts for Into the Mud! Alex and Drew met a million years ago in 2007 while studying abroad in Spain. They backpacked through Europe together, said farewell at an airport in Dublin in 2008, and didn't reconnect until 2018 while Drew was performing in Alex's then home,…
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