Exploring the world inside and outside the evangelical subculture, one conversation at a time. "Exvangelical" is a shared starting point with many destinations; it acknowledges the impact (predominantly white/white-led) evangelicalism has had on our lives, but does not dictate our current or future beliefs & practices. On this podcast, you'll hear stories of people who've left evangelicalism for other branches of Christianity, for other spiritual traditions, and for none at all. All paths ar ...
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Brian and Troy used to be loyal Christian megachurch leaders. They’re not anymore. This podcast explores life in and after fundamentalism.
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Additional content from Exvangelical & Blake Chastain. Originally published in @anchor. Learn more about Exvangelical at exvangelicalpodcast.com, and follow Blake on Twitter @brchastain. Follow the show on Twitter @exvangelicalpod. Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/exvangelicalpod/support
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Brian & Troy used to be loyal megachurch leaders. They’re not anymore. This podcast explores life in and after Christian Fundamentalism. --- We're now on video on YouTube here. Want more? Check out our exclusive Patreon episodes here. Our blog is here. Join the conversation and connect with others here. The transcript of this episode is here. All o…
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This episode was originally released on The Good Books. In this episode, I chat with author Angela Denker about her latest book, Disciples of White Jesus. Subscribe to Angela's newsletter. Support the show via my newsletter: postevangelicalpost.com. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Support our show by becoming a p…
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123 - Shame Sex Attraction with Dr Luke Wilson
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1:24:46We engage in a deep conversation with Luke Wilson, a Canadian scholar, about his experiences growing up in a fundamentalist environment and the impact of conversion therapy on LGBTQ+ individuals. Luke shares his journey from being a teenage fundamentalist to confronting his sexuality, his time at Liberty University, and the harrowing experiences of…
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In this latest interview, I speak with Lucas FW Wilson about the anthology Shame-Sex Attraction: Survivors' Stories of Conversion Therapy. The interview starts about 5:00 minutes in after a long intro/update. This episode was originally released last week in the new feed for The Good Books, which you can follow on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, and YouTu…
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122 - The Continuing Story of Jonas James
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2:05:24In this episode, Troy welcomes Ryan James, and together they tell the story of his brother Jonas James and his struggles with identity, music, drugs and Christianity. They explore the complexities of family dynamics, childhood trauma, and the impact of mental health on Jonas' journey. The conversation explores a complex individual who navigated var…
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121 - Gutsy Girls with Josie McSkimming
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1:20:38In this episode, Troy and Brian welcome Josie McSkimming, and discuss her new memoir, 'Gutsy Girls: Love, Poetry and Sisterhood.' The conversation delves into Josie's experiences growing up in a volatile family environment, her journey through fundamentalism, and the influence of her sister, renowned poet Dorothy Porter. They explore themes of resi…
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120 - Apostate with Sarah Bacaller
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1:19:53In this episode, Troy and Brian engage with Sarah Bacaller, editor of the book, 'Apostate: Stories of Deconversion'. They explore Sarah's background in fundamentalism, her academic pursuits in philosophy, and her reflections on the ethical implications of church authority. The discussion delves into personal narratives of deconversion, the impact o…
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119 - Called a Witch & Kicked Out! with Cath McKinney
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1:24:04Dr. Cath McKinney is the Professional Supervision Program Director at the University of Divinity in Australia. Her background includes extensive experience as a group relations consultant, a prison chaplain and inner-city minister. In this episode, Cath shares her journey from a complex religious upbringing to her experiences in church leadership, …
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118 - Revisiting Our Conversion Stories
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1:23:56Kicking off the first episode of 2025, Troy and Brian revisit their conversion stories...after four years of Exvangelical podcasting. They explore their early lives, the vulnerabilities that led them to embrace fundamentalist Christianity, and the roles of community and belonging in their experiences. The conversation delves into the impact of iden…
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In our second episode back in 2021, troy talked a little about his pre-conversion home life and his experience of two Christian camps. It was at the second camp where he found himself speaking in tongues and started to wear the label, 'born-again'. As part of our 2025 Down Under Summer Series, we're replaying our best episodes. We hope you enjoy th…
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Originally published on YouTube on 3/7/2025. I'm between author interviews, and March is traditionally a difficult month for me. Here is a brief minisode. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Support our show by becoming a premium member! https://www.postevangelicalpost.com/about…
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Let's go right back to the beginning. In Season 1 Episode 1, Brian recounted his conversion story. "No bibles, no preaching, no god-bothering!" These were the conditions he put upon his two brothers, who had recently converted to Pentecostal Christianity, if he were to visit them while on holidays. What happened next would change the course of his …
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The Good Books: The NAR & Trump's Return to Power with Dr. Matthew Taylor
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1:14:02In this episode of The Good Books, I spoke with Dr. Matthew D. Taylor, author of The Violent Take It By Force: The Christian Movement That Is Threatening Our Democracy. We talk about the growth of independent charismatic Christianity, the New Apostolic Reformation (NAR) and its role in J6 and ongoing support for Trump, and what's happened in the fi…
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In this minisode recorded on MLK Day/Inauguration Day 2025, I consider where counterpublics might be able to thrive in today's media landscape. I've written about counterpublics before in my book, and in my newsletter. Programming Note: I have work-related travel over the next two weeks, but will have more interviews and longer episodes to share st…
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117 - The Season 5 Finale with Brian & Troy
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1:06:47We'd love you to tune in as we say goodbye to 2024 and look forward to 2025. We look back on some of our best episodes of 2024, and even a couple of our worst. We'll definitely be back later in 2025, so see you then! --- We're now on video on YouTube here. Want more? Check out our exclusive Patreon episodes here. Our blog is here. Join the conversa…
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116 - From Loss to Purpose with Desiree Richter
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1:05:17We think you'll really connect with this episode. In 2000, Desiree Richter's two-year-old son Elijah died in a tragic domestic accident. The world as she knew it was dismantled along with her understanding of her place in it, leaving her to figure out how to parent her remaining children and how the fundamentalist Christian faith she'd practiced al…
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115 - Star-Spangled Jesus with April Ajoy
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1:13:16We're excited to welcome April Ajoy back to our show. April is an influencer, content-creator, podcaster, and all-around troublemaker for the Christian right. She grew up in the heart of American Evangelicalism as an Evangelist’s kid and she is insightful and astute at illuminating the ways Christian Nationalism has infiltrated churches and politic…
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In this episode I talk about what's next for this show and for, well, all of us. Some of my comments are from my latest newsletter missives: Well, here we are - Post Ev Post Coming Soon: (More of) The Good Books - Post Ev Post Exvangelicals, nones, secular Americans are undertapped in fight against Christian nationalism - RNS Subscribe to my newsle…
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114 - Some Standing Here Shall Not Taste Death - The Failed Return of Jesus
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1:05:07Did Jesus predict his own return in the lifetime of his disciples and first century Christians and get it wrong? Was he simply one of many failed first-century Jewish apocalyptic preachers? Did Paul and other writers of the New Testament share Jesus' view and get it wrong too? In this episode, Troy and Brian unpack some of the reasons why many scho…
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113 - Armageddon Isn’t Coming with Bart Ehrman (repeat)
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1:23:29In preparation for our upcoming episode on the failed second coming of Jesus, we decided to replay this interview with one of our Exvangelical heroes, Bart Ehrman. If you haven't yet heard this interview then you're in for a treat, and if you have heard it before, we know you'll love it all over again. Dr Bart D. Ehrman is the James A. Gray Disting…
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In this quick episode, I talk about the 2024 US Election. Show notes: My latest entry at The Post-Evangelical Post Emily Joy Allison addressing white exvangelicals on Instagram. Kristin Du Mez: Preparing for Tuesday Robert P. Jones: The Survey Findings Keeping Me Up at Night - Buy my book: Exvangelical & Beyond: How American Christianity Went Radic…
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Neurodivergence In and Out of Church with D.L. & Krispin Mayfield Part 2
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1:01:40Following on from Part 1, we continue our chat about neurodivergence with podcast faves Danielle (D.L.) & Krispin Mayfield. Krispin's website D.L.'s website STRONGWILLED (substack.com) STRONGWILLED (the podcast) --- We're now on video on YouTube here. Want more? Check out our exclusive Patreon episodes here. Our blog is here. Join the conversation …
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On the back of Troy's recent ADHD diagnosis, we talk about neurodivergence with podcast faves Danielle (D.L.) & Krispin Mayfield. Danielle's tells of their own Autism diagnosis and Troy opens up about how ADHD impacted him in the Church and now that he's deconstructed. The Mayfield's also talk about their latest project, Strongwilled. Krispin's web…
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From the Archive: Reza Aslan
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1:09:11Today I'm publishing an archival episode with Reza Aslan, who called my book Exvangelical & Beyond "[a]n insightful exploration of faith, identity, and activism in a nation at the crossroads of religious fervor and social change…At once alarming and hopeful, this is a book that every American must read, regardless of religious affiliation.” Exvange…
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110 - You can take the girl outta fundamentalism...with Dr Laura Anderson
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1:16:00Dr. Laura Anderson is a licensed psychotherapist, trauma resolution coach, religious trauma consultant, speaker, author, and educator. We talk with her about how when we leave fundamentalism, fundamentalism doesn't necessarily leave us, and its toxicity seems to manifest in other ways. Laura's links: Laura Anderson | Religious Trauma Expert When Re…
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My book, Exvangelical & Beyond: How American Christianity Went Radical and the Movement That's Fighting Back, is out TODAY, wherever books are sold. Buy here or at your local bookstore. In this short episode, I express my gratitude for this opportunity and share my hopes for this book. Read an excerpt today in TeenVogue, and read my newsletter abou…
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Cait West is a survivor of the Christian patriarchy movement and advocate for survivors of spiritual abuse. In this episode, we talk about her experiences and her book, Rift: A memoir of breaking away from the Christian Patriarchy. She shares her story of hope for those who want to break free from high control environments. Links Cait West's websit…
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108 - Let's Go Back to Great Big AOG Part 2
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1:16:28Following on from Part 1, we continue our recount of a recent Sunday service at Great Big AOG. We dive into the sermon and challenge the f*ck out of his claims and assertions and ask just how reliable are the supposed miracle stories that the pastor told. Judging by the amount of laughter, this two-parter is easily up there with our most fun episod…
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In this minisode, I talk about the 2023 Census of American Religion published by PRRI. This is an adaptation & expansion of my latest post at The Post-Evangelical Post. Exvangelical & Beyond comes out in under a month! Pre-order now! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Support our show by becoming a premium member! https:…
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It's been nearly 30 years since our last visit to Great Big AOG, and in this episode, we go back for a Sunday service. Join us as we recount the weird and bizarre antics and carry-on of these modern Pentecostals. We also introduce you to Brian's significant other, Michelle, as she joined us on our expedition back into the world of church. You'll la…
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Today's guest is the author Tia Levings, writer of the new book A Well-Trained Wife: My Escape from Christian Patriarchy. You may also know her from the Amazon docuseries Shiny Happy People and her newsletter The Anti-Fundamentalist. Her memoir is visceral and powerful, and just joined the bestseller list. Buy it here (this link supports the show).…
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106 - Navigating 'the Gray' with Sharon and Tracey from the Feet of Clay Podcast
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1:29:59In this episode, we are joined by Tracey and Sharon from the podcast, Feet of Clay—Confessions of the Cult Sisters. We talk about the black and white thinking of fundamentalism and how to leave it behind and embrace 'the grays' and nuances that pervade most of what life throws our way. Links: Feet of Clay—Confessions of the Cult Sisters Tracey & Sh…
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105 - Leaving Christian Friends and Family Behind (Our Stories Part 34)
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1:15:31When you leave church and/or the faith, what do you do about those who choose to stay? How do you navigate, maintain or even grieve those you leave behind? Troy and Brian share their own stories and give some advice on this very tricky part of deconstructing. --- We're now on video on YouTube here. Want more? Check out our exclusive Patreon episode…
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My book, Exvangelical & Beyond: How American Christianity Went Radical and the Movement That's Fighting Back, will be coming out in just under a couple of months on 9/24/24. The publisher, Tarcher Perigee, has opened up applications to join the Launch Team! Up to 50 people will be chosen to receive an early digital download of the book, as well as …
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104 - Troy Loses His Faith (Our Stories Part 33)
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1:09:48Troy chronicles the events immediately leading up to and after he lost his faith in Jesus. He describes the factors that influenced his decision and how it felt to be finally free of the mental gymnastics he needed to apply to remain a Christian. Links: So long, and thanks for all the guilt! (Troy's deconversion blog) Internet Infidels » a drop of …
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Tyler Huckabee Talks X-Men
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1:13:25In this episode, I talk to Tyler Huckabee from Clusterhuck. We go deep into the X-Men comics, especially the Krakoan Era (the most recent status quo in the X-Men line that ran from 2019-2024. Start with the House of X / Powers of X collected edition.) This is just a fun nerdy time. Subscribe to Tyler's newsletter, Clusterhuck. - Book News: I will b…
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103 - Death with Zenith Virago
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1:12:05We talk with Zenith Virago, a highly respected celebrant, educator, public speaker and author and self-proclaimed Deathwalker. She is the founder of the Natural Death Care Centre and was named Byron Bay's Citizen of the Year in 2021 in recognition of her important work. Links: Zenith Virago, Deathwalker Training Natural Death Care Centre Zenith on …
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