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Welcome to Customer Growth Sessions, presented by Intergrowth. Join host Pat Ahern, Managing Partner at Intergrowth, as we discuss techniques to build and scale systems that boost profitability for up-and-coming ecommerce businesses.
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Customer Confidential: Untold Stories of Earned Growth

Rob Markey, Bain & Company partner and customer experience expert

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The Customer Confidential Podcast unlocks a world of unparalleled customer and employee loyalty insights. Host Rob Markey, a Net Promoter System pioneer, uses his deep expertise and empathetic approach to challenge conventional wisdom, peel back layers of typical advice, and expose the real stories of industry transformation. Take a deep dive into discussions on CX, customer journey, customer insights, Net Promoter Score, and more. Every episode is a master class in loyalty. Guests include C ...
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We believe you should laugh and learn! 'The Intuitive Customer' podcast achieves this. Hosted by Colin Shaw, recognized as one of the top 150 business influencers by LinkedIn, where he has over 283,000 followers, and Prof. Ryan Hamilton, Emory University, discusses how you can improve your Customer Experience and gain growth. This review sums up: "The dynamic between the two hosts makes this podcast. Each brings a unique take on the topic and their own perspective and plays off each other se ...
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Claire Dunwood has a pickle. She wants to know how to manage rising customer expectations with fewer resources than she used to have. This episode seeks to help her—and you—do exactly that. It’s pretty common to hear problems like this today. Responding to rising expectations is easy when there is no limit to the resources you can throw at it. Doin…
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In this episode of Customer Growth Sessions, we welcome Audrey Fairbrother, the Content Marketing Manager at EQL, to speak about limited product launches. Audrey shares her expertise on the concept and execution of limited product launches, providing insightful strategies for both established and emerging brands. Connect with Audrey Fairbrother on …
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Episode 238: In what appears to be a paradox, Verizon is accelerating its responsible AI journey through a measured, deliberate approach—ensuring its technology is primed to enhance customer experiences when they matter most. Verizon isn’t rushing to put AI in front of customers. Instead, they’re deliberately building trust, refining data quality, …
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Personalization is a developing area in Customer Experiences. With AI driving what could be possible, many of you might be wondering how you can best leverage its capability in yours. To that end, we invited our special guest, Graham Hill, Ph.D., to explore the rapidly evolving field of Personalization in Customer Experiences. With decades of exper…
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Fair Warning: this episode regarding excuses was prompted by recent experiences with tradespeople during Colin’s kitchen renovation. No one likes excuses, least of all your customers. Lately, Colin has been hearing many amazing excuses about why something can or cannot be done in his kitchen project. It got him thinking about excuses and why people…
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In this episode of Customer Growth Sessions, Pat chats with Yash Chavan, CEO and founder of SARAL, about building effective influencer marketing campaigns. Yash outlines a six-step framework, covering everything from finding the right influencers to creating compelling offers and nurturing long-term relationships. Tune in for essential tips whether…
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In this episode, we tackle a thought-provoking question from one of our listeners: Is it ethical to use urgency as a marketing tactic? This question sparked a deep conversation about the ethics of digital marketing, particularly the use of scarcity to drive sales. We feature insights from Daniel Bisett, partner and CXO at WeRock DM, and Marketing P…
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In this episode, we dive deep into the concept of empathy and its significance in Customer Experience Management. We challenge common perceptions of empathy, explore its connection to emotional intelligence, and examine how both concepts can enhance your experience management efforts. We begin with a discussion on the importance of Emotional Intell…
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Join us today for an interview with Jim Simon, the founder of JiMMYBAR!, a family-owned company known for its healthy food products. Jim dives into the challenges and strategies of running a family business in the competitive CPG industry. Discover how JiMMYBAR! has evolved over the years, from its unique go-to-market strategies to navigating suppl…
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In this episode, we challenge the conventional wisdom of customer-centricity and discuss why firing a customer is sometimes necessary. While it may seem counterintuitive, knowing when to let go of a customer can benefit your business in the long run. We outline five critical rules to help you determine when it's time to part ways with a customer: R…
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Join us today for an interview with Miklós Kovács, founder and CEO of Gracing Media, and an early inspiration behind the Customer Growth Sessions podcast. Miklós does a deep dive into the benefits of podcasting for businesses and how to successfully launch a podcast to promote your brand. He shares his insights on everything from choosing the right…
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In this episode, we explore the role of AI in customer experiences and whether it will replace human interaction. Ali Cudby, CEO of Alignment Growth Strategies, shares insights on leveraging AI to build customer relationships effectively. We discuss practical AI tools that enhance customer experiences and streamline efficiency. There are a couple o…
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How does democratizing intelligence enhance productivity and drive smarter decision-making? Murli Buluswar, Citigroup’s Head of Analytics for the US Personal Bank, joins host Rob Markey to explore Citi’s strategies for democratizing intelligence. Murli emphasizes building a conversational intelligence platform that enables proactive and reactive in…
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Friction occurs when a customer has to work or think hard during an experience. Many times, friction is accidental or the result of organizational apathy. In these instances, friction is a bad thing. Friction is rarely a good thing in a Customer Experience. However, there are times when it can be beneficial. For example, when your bank uses two-fac…
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Join us today for an interview with live shopping expert, Marcy McKenna, a serial entrepreneur and the creator and founder of Live Shopping Academy. Marcy does a deep dive into the benefits of live shopping for ecommerce brands and how to successfully launch a live shopping campaign for your business, while also diving into her entrepreneurial jour…
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Colin has a bone to pick. No, it's not with cable providers this time. It's with the tradespeople involved in his latest home reno project. They are living up to the poor reputation that precedes them, and he has a list of complaints. Key problems included inaccurate pricing, disdain for previous workers' efforts, lack of collaboration, excessive u…
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Did you ever have an imaginary friend? If so, you already have a leg up on this week’s episode. Chances are you created a mental model of your imaginary friend and could predict with 100 percent accuracy how they might react to a given situation. A mental model is a detailed creation of an imaginary customer that helps you determine how a real-life…
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In this episode of Customer Growth Sessions, Amber Caro, founder of Marketbite, shares strategies on influencer marketing for emerging brands. Learn about selecting influencers, commission structures, and leveraging platforms like TikTok and Shopify. To run influencer marketing campaigns, Amber recommends using https://www.getsaral.com/. For more i…
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You know that friction in a Customer Experience is a problem that needs fixing. However, do you have that same perception of workplace friction? If you feel the friction at work, you probably do. But if you don't, you likely think little of it, if at all. Doing work for money requires a certain amount of friction, right? However, if the friction im…
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In this episode of Customer Growth Sessions, we sit down with Dusty Fields, Mobile Lead at Tonic, and Lauren Linzer, Director of Solutions at Tonic. We discuss Tonic’s approach to custom technology solutions, how e-commerce businesses should consider technology investments, and the process of building effective mobile applications. Get in touch wit…
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Customers can tell you why they do something, But they might be wrong. It's not that customers are stupid. No, it is quite the contrary. Customers' thinking and decision-making are complicated; multiple things happen simultaneously. Sometimes, the reason customers do things is hidden, even from the customers themselves. In our penultimate mastercla…
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Episode 236: When telecom rivals offered lower rates and bigger networks, Macquarie bet big on customer loyalty—and won. David Tudehope, Macquarie Technology Group’s CEO, joins Rob Markey to discuss Macquarie’s competitive differentiator: a bold, customer-centric approach. David co-founded Macquarie to prioritize exceptional customer experience ove…
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Sanjay Patel faces a challenge many of us can relate to: how to get senior executives to buy into your program. Dealing with senior management can be nerve-wracking, as I learned twenty years ago when my heart rate spiked during a presentation to the CEO and C-suite. Today, I've mastered strategies for these situations. In this episode, we discuss …
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In this episode, Pat interviews Ammar Moiz, founder and CEO of Mayple. They discuss how Mayple's digital logistics platform helps e-commerce brands expand globally, focusing on how brands can effectively manage international shipping. Ammar shares strategies for overcoming common challenges in global logistics, explains key milestones for internati…
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This episode is the sixth in an eight-part series on Unlocking the Psychology of Customer Experience. Here, we explore the psychology we have regarding how human beings deal with predicting unpredictable outcomes. The discussion focuses on biases that influence how people perceive and assess probability and risk, impacting their judgment and decisi…
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Regarding Customer Experiences and the behavioral sciences, there is seldom only one thing happening at a time. There are usually a lot of things happening at once. This masterclass episode, the fifth in a series of eight, explores economic biases and how they create flaws in our decision-making logic. For example, one key bias discussed is the Sun…
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Episode 235: In 2012, T-Mobile lost nearly two million customers. Its revenue fell precipitously. Its situation seemed hopeless. Then came a new CEO with an audacious plan and a penchant for F-bombs. Jon Freier, president of T-Mobile’s US Consumer Group, joins host Rob Markey to share his firsthand account of the remarkable corporate turnaround. Jo…
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Join us today for an inspiring session with Erin Casey Wolf, co-franchisor of Bella Bridesmaids. Erin shares the story of Bella Bridesmaids' humble beginnings, which started from a less-than-ideal shopping experience for her own wedding and has grown into a trusted name in the bridal industry. Erin discusses how Bella Bridesmaids has expanded into …
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Surge pricing, a form of dynamic pricing, involves raising prices during spikes in demand to balance supply and demand. It is a rational economic solution to manage demand effectively, but it can generate negative emotions among consumers who feel they're being unfairly charged. Surge pricing is a specific flavor of dynamic pricing or, depending on…
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Various motivational biases and emotions shape customer experiences, emphasizing the need for a holistic approach to designing experiences. For example, the customer’s mood significantly impacts the customer’s decision-making processes. Today's discussion highlights why understanding the customer’s mood and managing customer emotions helps you achi…
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Today, we're talking early-stage customer acquisition with Greg Rollett, the Head of Brand Growth at Grommet. We talk through Greg's entrepreneurial journey, exploring his early ventures from starting a record label to his significant contributions in the digital marketing space. Greg shares his experiences and strategies around customer acquisitio…
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This has been created in partnership with NICE. AI is a significant development in experience management, but many organizations need help with its implementation. While experimenting with AI, like ChatGPT, offers a glimpse of its potential, it's challenging to understand how AI fits into the broader tech stack and business systems. In today’s epis…
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A Master Class Part 3: Unlocking the Psychology of Customer Experience In the third episode of our Master Class series on the Psychology of Customer Experience, we delve into how other people influence our behavior. Understanding these theoretical dynamics is practical, empowering you to design effective Customer Experiences. Robert Cialdini's rese…
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Today, join us for an enlightening conversation with Jason Sealand, founder and CEO of Mad Viking Beard, as we explore the unique origins and entrepreneurial journey of the company. Jason shares captivating stories about the brand's inception, inspired by his great-grandfather, a Swedish immigrant known as 'the Mad Viking.' Discover how a simple be…
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Quality assurance is crucial in Customer Experience Management, and assessing call center operations provides valuable insights into an organization's customer-centricity. The subject of today’s episode is the result of our None of Use is Clever as All of Us feature. One of our listeners, Jamie Scott of Evaluagent shared his thoughts on Quality Ass…
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Why do some retailers excel at creating a welcoming environment for a diverse customer base while others fall short? Bain & Company's Naiara De León and Madison Dyal Anderson discuss their research on how companies that excel in customer advocacy and inclusion consistently outperform their peers by a staggering 10 percentage points annually. Beyond…
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Today, we're delving into the world of email marketing with George Kapernaros, the founder of YOCTO Agency. George shares insights on email segmentation, workflows for different customer segments, common mistakes in email marketing, and recommendations for building effective email campaigns. Looking to connect with George? Visit the YOCTO Agency we…
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A Master Class Part 2: Unlocking the Psychology of Customer Experience In this episode, we continue exploring the psychology behind Customer Experience, focusing on the role of memory. Customer loyalty hinges on how memories are formed and retained. Therefore, understanding memory formation is crucial for designing impactful experiences. Memory for…
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A Master Class: Unlocking The Psychology of Customer Experience With this episode, we begin an eight-part series exploring customer behavior and the psychology that drives it. Each part will delve into the various psychological aspects of Customer Experiences, offering practical advice on understanding and influencing them. Our focus today is on wh…
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What if the key to creating truly innovative products and solutions lies at least as much in uncovering the deep emotional and attitudinal needs of your customers as in mastering technology? Eckhart Boehme, founder and managing director of Unipro Solutions, shares his approach to putting Clayton Christensen’s Jobs to Be Done framework into practica…
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In this episode, Colin and Ryan tackle a listener's question about the psychology of customer loyalty, delving into its emotional and relational aspects. Loyalty, they explain, goes beyond mere repetition of behavior; it is rooted in deep emotional attachment and often requires sacrifice. Drawing parallels to personal experiences, such as loyalty t…
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Today, join us for an insightful discussion with Bill Spohn, President and CEO of TruTech, as we delve into the world of HVAC and building science technology. Bill shares his expertise on customer growth, business strategies, and community building in the HVAC industry. Explore how Bill's journey in the industry has led to success and innovation in…
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“Did I tell you about the time I …” These seven words are one of many ways we signal one of our favorite things is coming next: a story. We can’t get enough of stories and look for them everywhere, from news to conversations to the commercials we can’t avoid on TV. Stories are an essential part of the human experience. In today's world, storytellin…
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Matt Harris, Partner at Bain Capital Ventures, argues that generative AI will soon empower customers in unexpected ways. Consumers, he predicts, will soon use AI tools to continuously discover lower loan rates, higher-yield savings accounts, or more attractive insurance policies. As a result, Matt anticipates a shift in customer-company power dynam…
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